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Welcome my friend to the U.
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I'm julie Rissler and I am so honored to have you here in this show in community,
you'll find huge hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light to learn to trust their heart,
wisdom and help raise the consciousness of this planet.
Just like you,
whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow light worker luminary or solo cast about navigating life as an empath,
my goal is the same.
To help you turn your fear into faith,
to remember that you are sacred,
to realign with your highest potential to be fully self expressed as your you ist.
You are you ready to join me on this journey?
It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.
Never forget the chances of being born were one and 14 trillion.
In other words,
you are pure positive,
divine light born to shine,
To live from your heart and to be your fullest usu Hello,
us to family myself,
Brothers and sisters.
I'm so,
so excited to be here with you today.
So,
I already recorded the conversation with lee carroll.
Um and I am sharing a little bit about his background after we already spoke and I just want to tell you that this conversation was so powerful,
went so deep.
We spoke all about really how to tap into this power of pure love Of your heart.
We talked about the law of attraction.
I don't want to give it all away.
Lee carroll channels cry on.
So if you've heard of cry on before,
he has been channeling this higher consciousness for the past 32 plus years.
I've been listening for quite a while and every time I listen to anything that he teaches that lee teaches or that is that blended channeling with cry on it.
It always leaves me feeling just so connected at a deep divine level of spiritual connection.
So I hope that this conversation is going to uplift you as much as it did me.
Um it was,
it was so powerful for me to be part of this conversation and I just kept thinking of you like you're going To love,
love,
love and really,
really,
I think align with what he shared and of course,
as I always say,
take what you like and leave the rest.
So let me tell you a little bit about Lee carroll and cry on uh,
since 1989,
Li has brought the loving messages of cry onto the world.
Lee carroll is the author of 14 Cry on books and co author of the Indigo Children,
An Indigo Celebration and the Indigo Children.
10 years later he has 17 books total these Indigo books introduced the world to the term Indigo Children in 2000 spawning many follow up books by various authors,
a movie,
a documentary and lots of interest worldwide regarding our changes.
Changing kits.
The indigo books have sold almost half a million copies worldwide in 24 languages.
During a trip to McCaysville Georgia at Delphi,
metaphysical University in 2012,
lee was surprised with an honorary doctorate degree of Science,
trans personal psychology and metaphysics.
The award indicated for his extraordinary contributions of love,
wisdom and spiritual understanding.
Lee was most recently in the film,
the one field.
You will be meeting the producer of the One field in the next couple later in december.
Amazing,
amazing film all about consciousness and the power of the quantum field.
Lee has been named one of the 100 most spiritually influential living people for four consecutive years by the prestigious Watkins Mind Body Spirit magazine.
It is my honest pleasure,
my honor,
my joy to introduce you to lee.
We're gonna lead an intention and then dive very deep deep into the pool of my friends in this conversation.
Please let me know.
What did you think?
What did you notice?
What are some insights takeaways?
What are you seeing for yourself that is going to help you to really step into your us,
do you all right,
my beloved Us you community,
family,
those who are perhaps new to this podcast and to this episode,
welcome.
This is such a gift,
li I what a what an honor to have you and cry on both of you,
all of you to hear here today.
And I just thought we would start with a little intention.
This is something I love to do before we begin.
Um I know you're not new at this.
So,
um I would just like to put a hand on my heart and um just really feel into Yeah,
beautiful.
So I'm just,
and if you want to add,
I'm just gonna say,
let this conversation really,
really be a beacon of light and uplift every soul that is here listening in and may it really bring a a sense of peace and truth and love and expansion.
And if there's anything you want to add,
that was perfect.
I have nothing more.
That would be redundant.
Okay,
let this be for the highest good of all and so grateful and honored.
You're here.
My energy is just,
I've been so excited,
I'll just share with our listeners.
We,
um,
this feels like a blessed time to do this.
We uh,
we are very,
very thankful that it worked to have you today and just to share you and your wisdom and your story and so thrilled we have principles we teach and the fact that right now is a perfect time for you to do this and for me to do this and we're relaxed and ready.
You know,
that is energy that this targets right through this video into everyone and this is what we believe and so we're not rushed,
we're not anti,
we're not nervous and we've got something to say and the things that we have to say is your intent,
beautiful.
You know,
if we could go back,
I find your background so fascinating and just maybe to share a little bit more about you about how you even came into the world of connecting with Cry on and your and your background career.
Like I know you have a story um this,
this is something I don't know that you planned.
I don't think you planned on ever.
Uh just from what I've read,
I don't want to tell your story,
but maybe you could take us back.
I mean I know you've been doing this for a long time,
but really for those that may be newer to you or don't know your full story.
If if you wouldn't mind,
we would love to just hear how this came to be.
I'll tell you my story is my story that is just all about me.
But the bigger story is what we teach that we are built to find spirit period.
This is what crime has told me.
This is what guides have told me,
you come into this planet and you're given the opportunity with free choice to find a bigger truth and many people call it the veil or whatever.
And so there are many times I believe when spirit gives us,
um what I call the chance to look and then if you don't,
that's fine,
there's no punishment.
There's whatever and that's what I got.
I got a chance to look and the thing that is so much fun about this and I want to be concise and I want everybody to understand.
I was an engineer,
I still am an engineer,
I'm still a nerd.
So that didn't change just because I got metaphysical.
So I'm still li I'm still the guy with no screwdriver in my hand and all that stuff.
And what took place there was tailor made for me and this is I'm going to give this to you in a moment,
but spirit knows who we are so much.
I mean the creator created us.
We have a soul.
It's very well known to the to the creator,
who we are.
And so things happen in our lives that often give us opportunities to look And I got mine.
And the reason this is specific to me,
as you'll see in a moment because of my engineering background of what took place basically.
And just I'll tell you this was um well it was more than 32 years ago when this happened.
But 32 years I've been channeling cry on.
But before that it was three years before that um my wife Jan Tober at my wife at the time who is my best friend now and working with a cry and work.
She said I want you to go to a channeler.
I said no,
basically.
She was into metaphysics.
I was not,
we had an arrangement in our marriage.
Keep me out of your woo woo stuff and I'll keep you out of my engineering.
Um It went one way not the other,
and really?
I said,
no,
I'm not going to go see who dude.
And she says,
first of all,
it's a man that was important to me,
because everybody who was around me who was doing the woo woo stuff and all the magic that I wanted nothing to do with was a woman.
They were all females.
This was a guy.
And so I said,
first of all,
it's first time thought is,
well,
he's obviously gone nuts,
You know,
he's stepped into the world of the girls.
I went to that channel,
er because it was her birthday.
I sat in front of the guy almost,
um need kneecap,
the kneecap,
and he gave me good gibberish.
And I really,
I laughed today because that's what I do.
And so people who would tune in to hear my channeling are going to feel the same way,
they're not going to get it,
it's going to go over their head,
it's gibberish to them who wants this foolishness.
And I left.
And it was a 45 minute session.
I had had a cassette three years later,
and this is I mean,
I didn't even tell her I what I really told her after the session was,
here's your cassette is for your birthday.
I don't want to ever do that.
Uh and then three years later,
another channeler was a psychic.
A young man.
He was in his 20's.
The first guy was in his 60s.
And she said the same thing,
please go to this guy.
I said,
I really don't want to.
She said,
look,
it's going to be.
He only gives like 10,
10 minute readings.
It's it's okay.
Another cassette.
I just want to know what I'm feeling.
So I went to him,
look him in the face and he looked at me even before we sat down and he said,
lee you don't want to be here,
do you?
And I thought I like this guy because he knows he must be psycho,
that's the word I used.
And he just said,
I got a message for me,
He's been coming in all day for you and we don't even have to sit down,
are you ready?
And I said,
wait a minute,
let me start the cassette or channel kill me.
So,
I started the cassette.
So here we are cassette in hand.
And he says,
there's a magnetic master named Cry in trying to get ahold of.
And I thought to myself,
that that doesn't even compute that's nice.
That's nice for you,
my friend,
but not for me.
I have,
I'm 45 years old and I have a career and it's successful and I'm happy and I'm not going to now suddenly go off into uh and talk to uh to shelter or dr zoom or whoever it is,
you're going to tell me to go see.
And that was it.
And I went home and something in my brain and this is where it gets good.
Said I heard that phrase before,
I heard the name,
cry on before.
Could it be that the other guy,
the old guy that's younger than I am today?
But the old guy,
I said,
what if he had said that phrase to,
I found a cassette,
played it and he had verbatim word for word.
Now I had an engineering puzzle,
logic puzzle,
linear puzzle.
How could two men didn't know each other three years apart,
40 years apart in age?
Give me the same identical message on an entity they'd never heard of.
Now that is not solvable in engineering.
I didn't have my slide rule with me and I wouldn't help you see what I'm saying.
And it drove me crazy.
And that's the laughing part because I had to know I experienced something that didn't make sense to me and my logical brain.
Here we go.
And this is for everybody.
Have you ever had anything where you know where spirit is going to,
Would you look at this?
Would you look at this?
Would you look at this?
Maybe you'll be interested if you make a step forward?
And I did.
I got a chair out.
I said I have to know I have to know and Jan wasn't included crowd wasn't included me in a little room with a chair and I said cry on whoever you are,
whatever you are with a funny name.
If you're real,
I'm going to sit in the chair,
do your thing.
And if you don't,
I'm getting out of the chair and I'll know it's a fake.
So I put a flea step,
that's the fleece that is like prove it.
And I'm telling people if this is real before we're teaching is real,
go ahead and do that,
go ahead.
Because you'll you will,
you're gonna find things happen because all what you're doing is open the door possibilities of spirit to say hello,
Okay,
did you lose me?
No,
but as your this is really if you're if you're watching this literally I didn't touch anything.
My video just stop.
If we just keep just keep going then.
So the bottom line is this.
I had the chair there.
I put out the police cry and show me if you I sat in the chair and immediately I wept.
I couldn't control it,
tears running down my cheeks.
I was so upset at that.
I popped out of the chair.
I actually said to the chair,
don't ever do that again.
I mean it was this was such a non sequitur,
how can this happen?
And I it happened to me and there was no messages,
there was no writing on the wall,
there were no voices out of the sky.
It was completely and totally emotional.
What happened to me as I was,
I was filled with the love.
I had not really felt before.
Not like that.
Not like that.
And then I had to do it again?
And then I had to do it again.
And pretty soon the cause and relationship cause an effect cause and effect got into my linear brain and says,
I can't understand it,
but it's real.
That's the point.
I don't understand,
but it's real.
And so I encourage people to say and I say to them,
there are many things in in this whole idea of what we do and what we teach and the idea that consciousness can be energy and all the things that we are looking at.
Don't try to figure it out.
Because if you accept it and you start working it like the laws of attraction,
creating your own reality.
You know,
And suddenly things start happening and you go,
wow.
And other people say,
how do you do that?
You can say,
I don't know,
but I know how I did.
I did it for myself.
I know what I did.
I just don't know how it works.
So then the last thing I'll say about this and because I'm trying to make the story is that this just now I hear the uh the angels all the time go going major look major look major look and that's exactly what happened is that they gave me something to look at and I couldn't leave it alone.
And when I looked the whole world changed mm All right.
There's there's,
there's a lot to even unpack in that story.
And,
and do you want me to continue calling you lee and cry on or both or no,
I am bleeding and okay.
And occasionally,
Well,
there is a definitely meld what you're talking to me.
Yeah,
Okay.
Because I can feel,
I was like,
do a call both.
Um,
you know,
this is something,
Gosh,
I think what you said first of all that,
it was a feeling.
It was an emotion.
That's what it started with and that.
And I love that you're an engineer because honestly,
that is like the,
that is the quintessential linear brain that is,
you know,
you're clean to think like that.
And gosh,
what you just said,
I want everyone to really get this.
You can,
we you can't under,
you couldn't understand,
you can't understand it,
but it is real.
It doesn't mean it's not real.
Can I give you an example crimes even channel this and you're going to get in your car.
And uh,
for those of you who say,
show me,
show me,
show me,
I only believe in things that are real.
I only do this and that you get in your car.
Do,
the first thing you do of course,
is you go into your glove compartment and you figure out and look at the schematics of how your automatic transmission works.
And the answer is no,
I just start the car.
And I go,
excuse me,
do you know how it works and you say no,
but it does.
And I say bingo,
this is the world,
this is what we're talking about.
Trust something that works amazing.
So I'm from there.
You know,
I'm assuming you went from this,
this great career as an engineer.
I mean talk about a totally different shift in turn.
I mean,
I hear obviously just a full surrender and trusting to really,
I know you hear that,
but that's not what happened.
Hey,
tell us what happened.
I was scared spit less.
That's what happened.
I didn't,
I didn't want to then come out to all my friends and say,
guys,
you'll never believe this.
But I,
I'm now talking to an entity from beyond,
you know,
and I'm and my employees and my engineers and I like that.
I didn't do that.
And you know,
they found out later and I kept this quiet because I was afraid books by I am the Chandler,
I'm your teacher today.
I was afraid.
I was afraid of what they might think.
It was.
I wasn't afraid.
It wasn't real.
It's double negative.
I knew it was real.
But I was afraid of the reaction of my family and my friends and my employees.
I didn't want to lose my business At one point in time.
I said to spirit,
I am,
I'm afraid of what's going to happen.
I think what if I lose my my friends and my family and all this is over all of this,
you know,
And and that was me just saying,
you know,
take me to a place where this won't happen in spirit.
I remember the answer to that.
I got in the shower and that was Spirit said,
do you want to know me or not?
Do you want to know me or not?
And that was frightening because I realized whole,
there's something bigger here and I'll tell you in the end,
I ended up losing all of them friendship.
I didn't lose them in death.
I lost them in friendship.
They are,
but I gained a family that was the best family I have ever I could ever ask for.
It was it's astonishing.
So it's this and something better.
We make up our minds what we want and the bubble that we're in not understanding that there are perhaps there's something even better for us.
It's like their spirit,
let me keep this job,
please let me keep this job.
And this fear comes says,
oh you don't want the better one because we we just assume that if we're not going to keep this job,
I'm going to fire me,
I'm gonna be on the street.
We don't think about the better ones.
You know?
And so that was it.
I tell you I was so fearful.
If you want to see any of my books have 14 books with five with hay house and the rest are with me And the ones that I published,
including the original one has my name is not on the cover lee carroll is not there.
And you know what author do you know whose name is not on the cover?
It's on the back and it's in the back and it doesn't even have my full name in 10 point type.
It says L carroll.
And I did that for three books until I awaken to a bigger truth even than in layers of awakening even as the channeler.
And I realize I don't have to do it anymore.
Where?
Well,
I kept doing it all the way through my last book,
just as a reminder of this story to let people see this and know this and what what we go through.
We all you have permission to walk through fear and all these things when the awakening starts to occur,
you don't just you know,
fairy doesn't come down to touch you and poof,
you know,
you're different.
We worked the puzzle,
We're working into another reality that we didn't know that nobody ever told us.
People said,
well you were a good christian boy at that time.
What happened?
What did you do?
I mean,
did you And that that question,
people say,
well,
I got out of one box and got into another.
I mean that's how we think,
right.
So we we uh we stopped believing in all the things we had in church and we get them to start getting whoa,
whoa,
that's not what happened at all.
God got bigger for me.
I kept everything I learned in church about the incredible love of spirit that I was taught.
And then it got bigger,
a lot bigger.
So a lot of the doctrines that I was taught,
including a punishing God and all those things were swept away because I got a bigger truth,
but I didn't have to throw away my church friends or they threw me away.
Actually,
they didn't,
but I didn't stop loving any of them.
I did.
And I saw the value of what I had been through in my church.
I'm so glad I went to that church,
because they tempered me and got me ready for this.
So,
you know,
you know,
we're very linear in how we think it's uh it's this box or that box or we're doing this for that,
not understanding,
it's something that flows,
it can get a lot larger and more beautiful.
And at the same time the players start shifting and they start changing.
And that is what the beauty of this is that things start being brought to you because you're asking for it and living correctly and have a higher consciousness,
you never thought would happen.
Oh my goodness.
I so appreciate it so much in what you're saying,
My brain is like,
I want to ask about this and this.
And I think one thing I do want to ask to start with is this fear because I can hear sometimes people listening,
there's a lot of shift right now on the planet obviously and fear is um you know it's listening to and I,
I could feel myself on a cry just imagining all your friends and your life,
I mean that's that's not an easy thing to go through to just to move into this,
this life and and have that change.
I'm curious what helped you in your times of fear in that,
in that,
that that shift,
I know it didn't happen overnight.
What did you lean on?
And was it the work of cry on with you?
Like what helped you sort of pulling the nuggets that can help others in fear.
I'm not really sure that my experience necessarily could be echoed on to anybody else,
but I can give you the principal is that the love of spirit is so much grander than anything that you could possibly fear as you can rest in the arms of God and that's what you can do and there is such peace there.
It's like I tell people no matter what's going on in your life,
no matter what disease you think you have,
no matter what relationship issue you might have or what's going on financially,
you can sit in a place where all of that is wiped away at almost a moment and just feel like none of it is important based upon what is important and what is important is a tremendous,
complete,
tremendous potential for the solution of all of them,
All of them.
I have seen miracles in my life.
I've had miracles in life.
I've had health miracles.
I've had uh,
financial miracles.
I've had all of these things and not one of them did I ever think could happen.
And it's almost like they fell from the sky.
And I have heard this time after time when we talk about people who start to awaken to this,
what we're now calling law of attraction,
that joe dispenser,
teachers and great Britain teachers,
all of these things about if consciousness truly is energy and not just a mam Z pam's anything that floats in the air.
If consciousness,
energy that means it probably has energetic physical rules.
And one of them we have discovered is that how you think is what becomes your reality.
I had a,
a good friend in high school who's,
who was a hypochondriac.
We knew that in high school and I don't know why he was afraid of every everything disease.
He wore gloves,
the whole routine.
I mean he was,
he was afraid of uh,
he would catch everything.
And then of course as we grew older and all he was afraid of cancer and he was afraid of this or that in the end he caught everything and died.
In other words,
it's almost like he had a menu open and he listed the things he was going to catch because he was verbalizing them daily to everybody and the menu was fulfilled.
And I tell people what's your menu,
what comes out of your mouth?
What are you afraid of?
Uh and because every time you verbalize it into the air with this energy of consciousness,
there is a field ready to bring it to you.
And that's the truth.
And we have found that is so true.
People who are constantly complaining and worried about something in their life,
we'll probably get it.
And I'm not talking about just disease.
I'm talking about anything I'm talking about,
I'm afraid of losing my job.
I'm afraid of losing my job.
I'm afraid of losing my job.
Guess what?
I lost my job.
You know,
I'm afraid I'm afraid of my relationship,
I'm afraid I'm afraid.
And it's and it's and it ends and you get these stories constantly from people and use and and have you do you know people who are constantly in trouble?
Yeah.
Who are playing the same tape to you every time you call them.
Well,
how are you today?
Well,
this happened?
And you never believe this,
but this happened and this happened and this happened and they'll,
and you they'll say,
I think I just attract bad things and you want to say yes,
you do.
You want to say and here's why,
because that's all you verbalize,
that's all you verbalize.
So I've told people what affirmations and watching what you say,
that it's like gold,
sir.
If you start actually starting to think,
it's not thinking positive,
it's an energy of your consciousness more than how you think.
It's what you project with the energy,
what you say,
how you feel about what really is going to happen,
You start turning that around and things start happening that are good,
seen as positive by us.
And there's and then there's always guys,
there's always,
and I'll tell you as you start to awaken this week,
crying is doing a series that's going to be in uh quite sure on my site,
in november december for free is a series of channels calling attributes of awakening.
And because so many people are starting to what I will call,
get out of the box and think a little differently and there are attributes that don't sound so good because we are rebooting,
We're reframing were starting to call things different,
we're looking around and there's there's um emotional trauma with it.
Sometimes there's uh higher highs and lower lows,
there's because we're transitioning to something we didn't expect and it's not going to happen instantly.
There there's work to be done.
I've gone through three or four or five layers now in my work where I thought it was fine and I came in and found I wasn't fine and there was another level to go through,
I'll never be done.
there's levels all the time,
I so appreciate what you're talking about,
this whole idea of a menu,
just going back to that and to really be mindful,
what are you ordering?
Like what are you ordering on the menu?
You said something it's so interesting when I asked about the fear and he said well I don't know this is my experience,
although well this love of spirit is bigger than anything,
I felt like that just lit up the entire,
our entire interview and to me as I'm listening in addition to you were talking about you know what you're projecting your affirmations which what you're saying,
what what seemed to me to really also be part of this is this elixir that this divine love,
that spirit,
that that is the ultimate,
that can,
you know if you're in fear because I think um you know personally I know others who have written in,
I feel like I caught a fear bug for a little while um it's what I called it,
I said I gotta fear bug and it started to get bigger and I,
I felt like I know better um and then that got me into judgment and I thought ari spirit like please just take over,
like just like just take over like take over the wheel,
take over the show,
like I don't know what's happening and I think anyhow for when you're in that fear love that,
you know these are some really powerful ways to re steer,
you know,
the car different,
a different route.
We don't,
there's even more and we we have to take into consideration our culture and I'm talking about the Western world culture,
whether in europe or here Canada or Australia,
but we have a Western culture and that culture is has a commonality and that is mostly Christianity.
And I want to just say right now,
and you can write me letters or whatever.
It's a situation where we're all taught from birth from our parents,
from our church when they take us that we are not worthy.
Now,
that goes right into your psychology and it goes into your subconscious for life.
By the time you're six or seven years old,
Bruce Lipton will tell you when you interview him,
he says,
by the time you're seven years old,
all the receptors on all the genes have figured it out.
And so here's what I figured out.
I'm not worthy now,
it opens us up to being told what we have to do and whether that's whether the pharmacy companies or that's with another church or something,
but we're told we aren't worth it.
And if you get to the spirituality,
we're told we cannot talk to God directly.
Um,
and we're not unless we do something else.
So,
and if we don't,
I mean,
we're going to be punished and so that sits on you right now,
all of us who have come through that kind of a religious training.
And if you haven't even gone to church,
it's there because it's all around you,
it's all around you.
Maybe your parents or maybe they went to church or not distill that is our culture.
So what we have to get out of is that box,
It's the fear box.
The fare box of the fact I'm not doing it right,
I'm not worthy to try what's going to happen if I do it wrong.
And there's the other thing,
there is no wrong.
We made that up.
Those are men's rules.
We we have a complete total dysfunctional God.
If you're going to believe in some of these boxes,
everybody wants you to get in that are religious boxes,
we have a dysfunctional god.
We have a God who created us in love,
put us on the planet,
you have the Adam and Eve story.
And of course one human does something wrong,
which then is going to make all of the humans billions and trillions of humans from then on are going to be punished in hell with their skin being torn off daily.
Uh,
and you think I'm making that up.
I saw that on depiction in church in Italy for all the kids to see it's in the church,
it's a picture of help you worship and you'll get up and there's a picture of hell,
what does this tell us?
You know,
what kind of a God is this And that has been bought so completely by a billion people.
And I'm wondering at some point they may back up and say maybe that's not the full love of God.
Maybe that's a little bit of men in there and maybe God loves us better than that because otherwise it's like a greek god and we want to go back to the greek gods because they were all dysfunctional.
We do really truly have have a dysfunctional god.
What if it was pure love without guilt,
without punishment And all God wants from us is to be for us to find that love and change our lives.
I need to take a moment.
I'm like can you repeat that last line?
And that was so beautiful.
I thought what if all God wants from us all the whole package everything,
wipe everything away,
not what you eat,
not what you wear,
not which direction your face everything is to find the love pasted in ourselves and live it.
Uh huh.
I we were born to find this creator.
We have the equipment.
We are multidimensional beings.
If you doubt that.
Why is there such a field called quantum biology?
We are multi dimensional beings and we have a consciousness which is so powerful it can create matter out of nothing.
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Okay my friend back to the interview.
Hi,
I'm as I'm listening to you know,
I'm thinking about when you talk about your first experience as I'm hearing you and I would say this to everyone just feeling your words.
Feeling it makes I'm holding back tears,
I'll be honest.
I think I could just ball,
it's so beautiful.
Um and to really sit with this is this is our birthright,
all of us any human beings.
For everyone,
You're interviewing me and I've been doing this for 32 years,
I'm learning to and the biggest thing that crime has ever told any of us is for everybody.
this is not for the few of us who writing books and and being on interview shows and if if it weren't,
so you might as well just shut off the camera because what good does it do to have a few people doing this?
Everybody has to hook in and that's what's going on right now.
I wanna,
can I tell you something else when I started um and and all through my career and I've had many layers of what I've done and I like that I have been the ones who have been attracted to my work have mostly been people who are done with having kids and all like that and there are 40 and over and so that's my crowd and I will go and wherever I go,
whether it's your upper here and how big the crowds are whatever I look out in the audience and I see People were 40 year old and I had the big ha ha awakening,
not just the fact,
not here because this is because of social media and all of that when I was on the stage of the Alabama theater,
Obama,
that's not right,
I mean Sabina,
I'm getting it wrong,
Oh please forgive me all those people in Israel uh that was what was in the film and there were,
I was on stage alone,
Obama theatre and it was 1000 Israelis theatre was packed spotlight has me,
I'm sitting the chair,
but even though the spotlight is on me,
I can see a little about what's out there,
I couldn't really see the people very well until the pictures came back and all I saw was t shirts I realized I was talking to 40 and under and they were listening to me because they were feeling it and a whole bunch of young people are awakening saying,
you know,
this makes sense these things,
I'll take a look or I won't or whatever,
but at least they're listening and that's different.
That is one of the most different things that has happened to me I say in the last decade is that we're seeing more and more start to look Yeah,
that's so powerful and I know this is from the one field the film.
That's right and that's right and that they filmed that and that's become,
as I say part of the film because they're they're jewish team and this,
this is a film from them and I'm so glad because they're crying has actually said as as go the Jews go the world,
in other words,
they've got to solve their problems and what you're going to see their as they solve theirs will be commensurate with how the world is going to.
And they have got an almost unsolvable,
insurmountable problem.
And they'll tell you the adults the reason they weren't in the theater because they'll tell you it's not solvable.
They will say,
well,
you know,
it's called the situation and it will remain.
And the young people are looking at it differently And there they you realize that in that country when you are being grown up,
you're being told who your enemies are and by the time again,
you're 10 years old,
you know,
who did what to whom and who you should hate and who you should love.
And that is the truth.
Ask him,
ask him.
And so you're always being aware they're surrounded supposedly by their enemies.
But the young people are waking up to a bigger truth because they've met some of those enemies who are their age and they're looking at each other eyeball to eyeball and saying,
why don't we throw away the old stuff that happened and create some new stuff for ourselves?
And that is tough because you have a history of who killed whom,
who did,
what to whom and why and all that and who deserves this and that and you don't have to then repeat it.
You don't even have to believe it if you can start again wipe the slate and do something different.
And we don't even think that way.
But I was seeing a bunch of young people who were,
who were listening and the message that crying gave in that theater that said you've been living in black and white forever and color is coming and the color is for the young people to look at each other and go,
let's start this whole thing again.
This feels so pertinent to what we're dealing with as well right now on a global level and part of I,
you know,
I'm curious case why I sometimes feel like I can be a little Pollyanna or you know,
what's the positive?
Like I'm trying to search for what what's the gift in what's happening right now?
And I'm curious what you what crying has is sharing that is for us to learn right now because it's such a people,
I feel like what you're sharing.
It's like the,
That's like the epicenter of the situation in the dilemma and then there's the global like massive upheaval on so many levels and curious in all your 32 plus years.
Like what what's our what's the,
what are we learning here?
What can we learn and how can we raise our consciousness so that we can I talk a lot about and then quick and all,
but there's a lot to say here,
There really is.
First of all,
everything that your experience is absolutely right on schedule.
This is not a mystery.
It's not something new.
It's been predicted and it's been predicted in odd way.
It's been predicted by the ancients.
And it all revolves around the procession of the equinox is at 2012 for hundreds of years,
the ancients,
the Mayan and more.
Talk to us about what might happen on or around the year 2000 up to the year 2012.
There was like a uh 18 year window there where something could happen and it has to do again with the earth and it has to do with the wobble of the earth.
And you think what has that got to do with anything?
Well,
remember what we're teaching that consciousness is energy,
the planet is part of us asking indigenous.
And you will see that there is a correlation.
I mean,
I've got science for you to talk about a correlation if you want to,
so does Greg brady and so does Princeton University.
So here we are with a premise,
something is going to happen for the year 2000 or or brr 2012.
Now,
take a look at the prophecy.
What does your bible say,
christian?
It says that in the year 2000 or 2000 and one or whatever we're going to have an Armageddon,
we're gonna be,
we're gonna have World War Three,
in other words.
It was also saying the same thing.
So there's been many,
many prophecies talking about this area of time,
it was coming.
I remember sitting in church and hearing evangelists tell us we were doomed and it was gonna be,
we're gonna we better get it together before the year 2000 because it was all coming to a head.
So we all had a prophecy,
okay,
so did the ancients.
And here it was,
If you don't kill yourself and you make it through the year 2000 by 2012,
there's going to be an explosion of consciousness,
the highest consciousness that humans have ever experienced.
It's the next step that is the ancients prediction.
That's not a new age thing that came right from the ancients and from the Maya.
You can read it,
you know,
in their temples on the walls,
All about this precession of the equinoxes.
So here we are 2012 occurred and suddenly things started happening.
Now stop a moment we are in this little box of ours called watch the news and get frayed.
That's all you've got.
And that little watched the news and get afraid is your whole world and that's practice why everybody's afraid the world's going to hell and all like that.
And so we're extremely in the now we're only about,
you know,
we're we got A life that lasts for 12 hours and we go to sleep,
we get up watch the news,
we figure out what's going to happen.
First of all my just my advice to everybody is don't watch the news.
It's an entertainment media.
They've got music and pictures and they plan it and they make you afraid.
And if they don't,
then there are other channel well and they will have more money because the marketing is that way.
So if you want to get the news,
get it on the internet from a channel you like on the net,
read it,
read the articles that you want to don't have them presented like a movie to you.
So you'll feel a certain way.
That's the first thing.
But let me just get back to this,
this whole idea of what's going on light is winning folks and you don't know it because things happen slow.
What is winning?
I want to give you 2-3 examples very quickly and I've given them and many,
many podcasts that okay if I do that.
Oh my gosh way.
You just take take the mic.
I'm like crying over here.
It's beautiful.
People have heard me before.
I get tired of these stories,
but I don't,
I don't because they,
they nail it for me.
Okay.
Um,
first of all,
let's talk about women's rights.
Let's talk about not only women's rights for the position of women in our country all over the planet and what it has been for hundreds of years and what it is today,
The Me Too movement is something that shocked and surprised everybody.
My father for instance,
he said,
this is the way it works.
And this is where women probably will always be because it's the consciousness that we have as men And they will be put down.
They'll be asked to do inappropriate things in order to get better jobs,
you know?
And if you take a look at the commercials in the 50s,
it's just a riot to think about the difference and where,
what has happened between then and here and the place.
Well,
it did change.
And when did it change?
And the answer is just a few years ago now,
how can something be is that's so basic hundreds of years?
One way where women are thought and looked and it just is and is and is and bam suddenly there's an explosion appropriateness.
I mean,
people are looking at a higher consciousness level in order to say this isn't right.
They ought to have equality.
We that they should be treated like anybody else.
They,
you know,
and it's it's almost like,
uh,
I'm sorry,
kind of a thing.
And now they're coming into their own now.
Is that just a coincidence that it happened with the time?
I don't think so.
I think that is an example of a higher consciousness on the planet.
How long I know,
don't give me letters,
but how long have priests been abusing kids?
I mean,
in Philadelphia,
we've got 1000 cases.
How many do you think have been on the planet?
And how long has this been going on?
And the answer would be probably since there was a church,
we're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
That's what I think.
And if you go back and find out it simply was the way of it.
Such an unconscionable thing was happening and happening and happening.
Not only did it get exposed,
but we have a pope who is trying to deal with it.
Now.
You figure that out.
That pope,
by the way,
is also a miracle.
If you figure out,
I mean,
he took over from the position of a living pope.
When has that happened last?
There's so many things that you can look at that happened in this time frame to give us this kind of turnaround.
We are starting to see things differently.
I've talked to my black friends many many times and they say one of the issues in the States is that something will come to a head where their will be abuse,
whether it's from government or police or whatever.
And there will be a reaction,
Probably inappropriate riots and all they get to get our attention.
The Congress says they'll do something.
We all get excited and nothing happened.
Mm hmm.
And then it will happen again and nothing happens.
And then will happen again.
In other words,
they're used to this wave of,
uh,
oh yes,
it's probably not right.
And we'll do something and nothing happens this time.
It will and that you're seeing it,
there is still going on.
I mean even to to the what what I think is probably not the answer but they're going right for it.
Let's defund the police.
So that's probably not the answer.
But it's Karen,
everybody who is looking at their society going no no wait a minute.
We need will still need them to come to our house.
But uh and you know,
help.
But it's getting the attention,
it's not going away,
it's not going away.
Something is going to happen,
whether we're going to start vetting our policemen from the academy by the citizens or whether there's going to be something,
whatever it is,
it's going to have a more permanent answer than they ever had before.
And that is us looking at us saying it's got to get better with a higher consciousness.
Covid has put us all in our houses.
Mhm.
For a year in some manner and I'm being metaphor,
it stopped the world.
We had a war folks without a war.
Do you realize that mm We had a war without a war.
Yes,
there was some death.
But we we had if you if you want to talk to your grandparents and find out what world War two was like this is it everything stops and you know and uh controlled whether you get jobs or not jobs where you go we had a war without a war and in that we had to come together and do things we never have had to do as long as I've been alive,
you're forced together with your family.
In a way that you never were before.
There's different ways of teaching and being and doing and jobs and all for everybody.
It's almost global brian gave an example,
will this all stop this talk?
But about this one.
But he gave an example of channeling and he says,
there's a factory and this factory makes everything for everybody and it has to keep going.
If it stopped,
there would be massive change.
So it's cranking out products is cranking out food.
It's crank going And in this there are people who are coming up to the manager saying,
look,
this machine over here is not working well.
In fact,
it's a dumb machine and it keeps breaking and it's costing us a lot of money and we should stop and retool.
The manager says,
we can't stop the factory.
Well,
jim over here comes the manager and he says,
you know,
uh George over there has been pocketing a lot of the income from all the products.
He just takes some money,
stuffs it in his pocket and goes home.
And then he other people saw and he's given it to them too.
So there's we're draining money over there is corruption over there by your own people making the products and the manager says can't stop the factory,
we'll look into it.
And of course,
you know,
you know where this is going suddenly the factory has been stopped.
Mm hmm.
Now what is going on right now is the retooling,
it's the cleaning up of the corruption.
We have a chance now to do things we've never done before because stuff is stopped.
And there's other things brian has said for years,
we're going to see one big thing happened.
I was waiting to find out how this is going to be.
And in my opinion,
it may be the beginning the fall of inappropriate big pharma.
The ones who keep you sick for money and know it the ones who are advertising on tv because of an obscure law that they passed that they could advertise products like that and that tell you you're sick and here's what you need for it.
All of these kinds of things.
We've been seeing this for a very long time.
Client says that is an inappropriate thing completely and how higher consciousness will eventually stop it.
Now,
that's going to take awhile folks.
But would you not agree that that would be a good thing.
And especially when you figure out that there we know it that there are many who have cures that are not letting them out until they get their amortization schedules right?
Another seven years and it doesn't matter how many people die because they're gonna get a lot of money out of it before it comes generic and they can bring out the one,
but they know works better so that's working and has worked a lot in our society for them,
not for us.
And that's going to be something that we're going to see.
There's other things that brian says are going to happen.
We're waiting for some inventions when we have a higher consciousness and it has nothing to do with artificial intelligence.
Ai let it let it vacuum our homes and drive our cars.
But our consciousness is a lot,
a lot more important than anything that that technology will ever bring us from your experience or in connecting with crying.
Because I'm hearing this question of how do I raise my consciousness now?
I feel silly asking that I have some thoughts on it,
but I want to hear from you and cry on because it's so important,
what can we do?
I mean,
I know watching,
stop watching the news is definitely one of them that you said earlier.
I actually can't watch it.
I'm too much of an empath.
And I get very I can't I can't um and if you're watching,
we're asking you please do not because it's sensationalized.
Um what are other ways that everyone listen can raise their consciousness and start becoming more aware and awake?
Let's start beginning.
I want to revisit that because I want people to walk away from this with one idea we've been doing this long enough and on streaming and all the people will hear say one thing and report another and they will say,
well I watched the podcast,
we're not supposed to know the news.
That's not what we're saying.
We're saying there is media that is better than television and is more accurate.
Be informed.
But get it from a place that is not a movie that's going to control what you see when you see it with music.
All right.
That that's entertainment folks and it postures you in a certain way.
They know what to do.
They have known what to do for years and years.
Get it,
get your news in a place that makes sense.
Read it in a place you trust back to the newspaper.
If you have to,
it's probably online from places you trust and read and absorb it in your own time and then you'll find out without the fear.
Okay.
You get to a place and you say,
how can I be more aware,
how can I raise my consciousness?
You have to mean it.
That's the first thing we're used to pills were,
um,
we're used to taking a pill and haven't worked for us and this is not the case.
We have to cognizable that we want this.
Now.
Cognizant is for firm belief.
For instance,
we believe in gravity and such a way that we absolutely know that when we walk off a cliff,
we're going to fall down.
That's a cognitive thing.
It's not a belief.
So I've worked this puzzle so many times where you say,
okay,
I'll try this and I'll try that.
And I've tried this and I've gone to this person and that person,
this is something you do for yourself.
You sit down first and you say their spirit this,
you made me look bring me something someone,
some whatever situation that's going to help me to achieve what I came for,
help me to love you more.
Help me to straighten out my life for people looking for the right diet,
uh crying has said,
you're also different.
Don't don't expect one diet for everybody.
You say dear spirit bring me the intuition to know what I should eat.
That is perfect for my body right now in this lifetime.
And these things start coming in and that is called co creation.
When we cognizable,
we want and start believing this is going to happen to me.
There's a higher consciousness available.
There is a loving God that's wanting to get through to me.
I'm going to work this puzzle.
I've got a ticket for the train and I can see it and the train now is going to come in various stages and show me until it assembles itself and I get on it and it may take a while.
So it really is not just let go and let God.
It's let go and let yourself find God in a way in a way that people don't trust they want other people to tell them what to do in order to accomplish these magical things,
it's inside it really is.
Now you may be led then to a healer or a product or process that is great.
So I'm not saying throw away healers,
I'm saying you will be led to the ones who help you and your condition the most Because all these healers that we've been doing on,
on healing Wednesdays for for the past year,
you had 52 of them,
almost 60.
Now,
all of them have processes that help and heal people and many of those are to actually make them more aware.
It's not a pill and so you see there are counselors available.
If you might say to help you in your awareness,
it might bring you there and that is what happens to so many of us is that we ask in silence to have it shown and bang in will come a name in,
will come a show,
we watch or something or a book and we'll read it or we'll go.
There we go.
I want to know more about this and in the process of that their lead to a higher truth.
They go,
oh my thank you for you for you healer whatever.
So there is such a wonderful place for the healers and of the,
of the,
of the new age or whatever you want some of our time and that's what they're doing,
they're helping you to increase your awareness if I can just add for it was so cool about this first.
I love what you're saying.
It goes back to we,
first of all,
we all have that innate connection to spirit.
It's within,
it's an inner,
it's an inside job.
And I,
you know,
it's funny,
I'm laughing because this is a few years ago I've been connecting to my intuition and what's right to eat and what do I need to really to be julie with spirit and answers the question,
I think for all of us,
how do we embody spirit as us?
And a friend of mine,
my friend Lauren was like,
you should check out cry on and I'm like,
I don't know who that is and I heard you and I was like,
oh my gosh,
who is like what?
This,
this my whole body.
I was like,
okay.
And I just so I'm laughing and I'm grateful because it's it's one of those moments of like thank you spirit,
like clearly,
you know,
you've had that impact on millions and millions and I think he's like you said,
let your in our spirit guide intuition,
let that guide you and all of it and it's going to be different for each of us.
Just like we think entirely different.
We've had healers on our show that real healers that were,
that dealt mainly with energy from computer programs they develop that interface with consciousness.
I mean it sounds,
it sounds magic and crazy.
It works.
It works.
Uh and we've there's something for everybody and some people would look at that and go as not for me and then somebody else will come along who deals with um the plants of the planet and uh herbology and things.
I know this is what I want,
you know?
So there's there's something for everybody.
And this is back to the engineer that I was there.
None of that would have worked for me.
But I had a logic puzzle and this is this is the fun part that I go back to the beginning now is the spirit knows you so well and intimately just waiting for you to sit down and say bring it.
That's awesome and then watch what happens and watch what happens.
I if it's okay,
I have one or two quick questions that I just for those who are newer to cry on.
And I guess my curiosity is I know you always say it says of magnetic service number one.
Do you get an image of this consciousness?
Is it more of a feeling?
And what does that mean?
Magnetic service?
I'll tell you just briefly you can look it up if you wish.
And I didn't know I had no idea.
People wanted to know what do I have an angel.
I can stick on the refrigerator and and there's nothing to do with that and I didn't know and I didn't know until the late,
I would say nineties into the year 2000 and all.
Then just I had this ah ha It's something that we were going to discover that has led me right now to even the one field It was called.
There.
There were two experiments on this planet by ongoing.
One of them was called the Global Coherence Initiative by heart math.
It's still there today.
You can take a look at it.
Greg Brayden is on their board.
He knows about it.
We'll talk about it.
They had an experiment going on where they had magnetic sensors all over the planet measuring the strength of the magnetic grid.
The idea that they had God bless them.
This is one of their intuitions and they spent money is this if something happens globally that everybody can see and feel,
would it change the magnetic grids strength Now?
If it did it would be absolute 100% proof that consciousness is physics.
You see that.
And it did at 9 11.
They didn't expect this at 9 11.
Not only did all their sensors pick it up,
but two satellites in orbit that measure the strength of the magnetic grid picked it up.
It went three times the strength immediately.
Right after the planes hit those towers actually a little before that changed the magnetic grid of the planet and it wasn't the one Z.
It happened again in another place,
a couple other places.
I think one was death of Princess Di.
It was a total and complete proven relationship between the strength of the magnetic grid going up and down and a global event.
This is what Lynne McTaggart has been working with for so long.
She knows that this is very doable that consciousness affects things in other places.
And so only then that I realized it was the magnetic grid all along the crime has been talking about that contains the bubble of consciousness.
For us.
It works with our consciousness.
There's something to do with Magnetics and our consciousness that's correlated And that pegged it for me.
And then I knew that's the magnetic master because there's something there.
We haven't discovered it yet.
That's going to be Probably part of what we do,
Magnetics crime says is the future of all energy.
And we actually have free energy now.
But nobody is looking at it.
Nobody is developing and nobody's seeing it.
But it's all over.
And it's very obvious you've got Magnetics and push and pull so you can't even pull them apart.
And and it's natural,
it's uh it'll go for 4000 years.
You come back and still pushing and pulling folks maybe that ought to push and pull and something you can,
you know,
an engine or something and not use one drop of fossil fuel uh talks about it being the future of how our transportation will be all that.
That's where the magnetic master came in so way before its time.
We'll look back someday and realize the joke.
I'm just now seeing oh what a what a thank you for tying that together.
I'm a huge fan.
We've had Dr Debbie Rosman and robert McCready and talking about this.
I didn't put that together until you said that about the global either.
I didn't eat and that was the big hall.
I laughed for so long.
I went Now I know um uh my mind I don't like to say is blown because I'm like,
I don't want to it's blown.
It's blowing.
My mind is like a beautiful that I like,
I like to imagine folks,
it's all Provable science.
Those are global consciousness project with Princeton or they talked about random things becoming suddenly Um synchronized at the same time that 9-11 happened.
In other words,
consciousness may be a tremendous physical energy.
We don't even know the rules of it yet.
We're just discovering what we can do with our lives.
You know,
and uh you got star trek that they they make meals out of it.
You know what their um in India and I'll just just say we know that there are certain masters in the past have actually been able to manifesting material and matter with their consciousness and that's been photographed and known and all.
We don't I don't know why that was never on CNN I guess we just figure it's uh stuff that's magic and doesn't matter and we don't care.
But it's been with us for so long.
Gregg Braden will tell you we have the solutions almost every problem today.
And we've known it for a very,
very long time since nobody let it out.
It wasn't time.
Well,
I know we're ready.
I'm ready.
I don't even listening.
We're like uh like you said Spirit bring it,
Please bring it.
Last question would just be I call them heart flares.
If there's anything I didn't ask you anything in your heart that you would like to share with our listeners.
Yes,
I will tell you that there is one thing that I would like to tell everybody that the secret,
it's not really a secret.
It's the most sacred thing you can be and do and and and look do and that's joy.
Joy is sacred.
And the more you laugh and the more excited you are about these kinds of joyful things,
it starts to heal your heart,
clear your mind and then you start getting solutions that fear has blocked.
So be joyful as much as you can laugh as much as you can.
You know,
And you've had situations I know where when you all laugh together,
suddenly all the barriers came down and you're able to hug each other and all that stuff.
That's what I'm talking about and it's more than just an elixir.
You know,
it's it's it's sacred.
It's sacred.
It's God given for that reason,
so be joyful.
It has been a complete joy.
My cheeks are hurting from smiling uh and delight and honor,
li you are just just a gift a gem.
Thank you so much.
Beautiful.
Mhm My friend,
I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.
I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.
I created this podcast from my own heart's desire to amplify the vibration of compassion,
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abundance,
part magic and so much more,
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Let me know what you loved.
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Yeah.

Welcome my friend to the U.S.To podcast.I'm julie Rissler and I am so honored to have you here in this show in community, you'll find huge hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light to learn to trust their heart, wisdom and help raise the consciousness of this planet.

Just like you, whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow light worker luminary or solo cast about navigating life as an empath, my goal is the same.To help you turn your fear into faith,

to remember that you are sacred, to realign with your highest potential to be fully self expressed as your you ist.You are you ready to join me on this journey? It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.

Never forget the chances of being born were one and 14 trillion.In other words, you are pure positive, divine light born to shine, To live from your heart and to be your fullest usu Hello, us to family myself,

Brothers and sisters.I'm so, so excited to be here with you today.So, I already recorded the conversation with lee carroll.Um and I am sharing a little bit about his background after we already spoke and I just want to tell you that this conversation was so powerful, went so deep.

We spoke all about really how to tap into this power of pure love Of your heart.We talked about the law of attraction.I don't want to give it all away.Lee carroll channels cry on.

So if you've heard of cry on before, he has been channeling this higher consciousness for the past 32 plus years.I've been listening for quite a while and every time I listen to anything that he teaches that lee teaches or that is that blended channeling with cry on it.It always leaves me feeling just so connected at a deep divine level of spiritual connection.

So I hope that this conversation is going to uplift you as much as it did me.Um it was, it was so powerful for me to be part of this conversation and I just kept thinking of you like you're going To love, love,

love and really, really, I think align with what he shared and of course, as I always say, take what you like and leave the rest.So let me tell you a little bit about Lee carroll and cry on uh, since 1989,

Li has brought the loving messages of cry onto the world.Lee carroll is the author of 14 Cry on books and co author of the Indigo Children, An Indigo Celebration and the Indigo Children.10 years later he has 17 books total these Indigo books introduced the world to the term Indigo Children in 2000 spawning many follow up books by various authors,

a movie, a documentary and lots of interest worldwide regarding our changes.Changing kits.The indigo books have sold almost half a million copies worldwide in 24 languages.During a trip to McCaysville Georgia at Delphi,

metaphysical University in 2012, lee was surprised with an honorary doctorate degree of Science, trans personal psychology and metaphysics.The award indicated for his extraordinary contributions of love, wisdom and spiritual understanding.

Lee was most recently in the film, the one field.You will be meeting the producer of the One field in the next couple later in december.Amazing, amazing film all about consciousness and the power of the quantum field.Lee has been named one of the 100 most spiritually influential living people for four consecutive years by the prestigious Watkins Mind Body Spirit magazine.

It is my honest pleasure, my honor, my joy to introduce you to lee.We're gonna lead an intention and then dive very deep deep into the pool of my friends in this conversation.Please let me know.

What did you think? What did you notice? What are some insights takeaways? What are you seeing for yourself that is going to help you to really step into your us, do you all right,

my beloved Us you community, family, those who are perhaps new to this podcast and to this episode, welcome.This is such a gift, li I what a what an honor to have you and cry on both of you, all of you to hear here today.

And I just thought we would start with a little intention.This is something I love to do before we begin.Um I know you're not new at this.So, um I would just like to put a hand on my heart and um just really feel into Yeah, beautiful.

So I'm just, and if you want to add, I'm just gonna say, let this conversation really, really be a beacon of light and uplift every soul that is here listening in and may it really bring a a sense of peace and truth and love and expansion.And if there's anything you want to add,

that was perfect.I have nothing more.That would be redundant.Okay, let this be for the highest good of all and so grateful and honored.You're here.My energy is just, I've been so excited,

I'll just share with our listeners.We, um, this feels like a blessed time to do this.We uh, we are very, very thankful that it worked to have you today and just to share you and your wisdom and your story and so thrilled we have principles we teach and the fact that right now is a perfect time for you to do this and for me to do this and we're relaxed and ready.You know,

that is energy that this targets right through this video into everyone and this is what we believe and so we're not rushed, we're not anti, we're not nervous and we've got something to say and the things that we have to say is your intent, beautiful.

You know, if we could go back, I find your background so fascinating and just maybe to share a little bit more about you about how you even came into the world of connecting with Cry on and your and your background career.Like I know you have a story um this,

this is something I don't know that you planned.I don't think you planned on ever.Uh just from what I've read, I don't want to tell your story, but maybe you could take us back.I mean I know you've been doing this for a long time,

but really for those that may be newer to you or don't know your full story.If if you wouldn't mind, we would love to just hear how this came to be.I'll tell you my story is my story that is just all about me.But the bigger story is what we teach that we are built to find spirit period.

This is what crime has told me.This is what guides have told me, you come into this planet and you're given the opportunity with free choice to find a bigger truth and many people call it the veil or whatever.And so there are many times I believe when spirit gives us,

um what I call the chance to look and then if you don't, that's fine, there's no punishment.There's whatever and that's what I got.I got a chance to look and the thing that is so much fun about this and I want to be concise and I want everybody to understand.I was an engineer,

I still am an engineer, I'm still a nerd.So that didn't change just because I got metaphysical.So I'm still li I'm still the guy with no screwdriver in my hand and all that stuff.And what took place there was tailor made for me and this is I'm going to give this to you in a moment,

but spirit knows who we are so much.I mean the creator created us.We have a soul.It's very well known to the to the creator, who we are.And so things happen in our lives that often give us opportunities to look And I got mine.And the reason this is specific to me,

as you'll see in a moment because of my engineering background of what took place basically.And just I'll tell you this was um well it was more than 32 years ago when this happened.But 32 years I've been channeling cry on.

But before that it was three years before that um my wife Jan Tober at my wife at the time who is my best friend now and working with a cry and work.She said I want you to go to a channeler.I said no,

basically.She was into metaphysics.I was not, we had an arrangement in our marriage.Keep me out of your woo woo stuff and I'll keep you out of my engineering.Um It went one way not the other,

and really? I said, no, I'm not going to go see who dude.And she says, first of all, it's a man that was important to me, because everybody who was around me who was doing the woo woo stuff and all the magic that I wanted nothing to do with was a woman.They were all females.

This was a guy.And so I said, first of all, it's first time thought is, well, he's obviously gone nuts, You know, he's stepped into the world of the girls.I went to that channel,

er because it was her birthday.I sat in front of the guy almost, um need kneecap, the kneecap, and he gave me good gibberish.And I really, I laughed today because that's what I do.And so people who would tune in to hear my channeling are going to feel the same way,

they're not going to get it, it's going to go over their head, it's gibberish to them who wants this foolishness.And I left.And it was a 45 minute session.I had had a cassette three years later,

and this is I mean, I didn't even tell her I what I really told her after the session was, here's your cassette is for your birthday.I don't want to ever do that.Uh and then three years later,

another channeler was a psychic.A young man.He was in his 20's.The first guy was in his 60s.And she said the same thing, please go to this guy.I said, I really don't want to.

She said, look, it's going to be.He only gives like 10, 10 minute readings.It's it's okay.Another cassette.I just want to know what I'm feeling.So I went to him, look him in the face and he looked at me even before we sat down and he said,

lee you don't want to be here, do you? And I thought I like this guy because he knows he must be psycho, that's the word I used.And he just said, I got a message for me, He's been coming in all day for you and we don't even have to sit down,

are you ready? And I said, wait a minute, let me start the cassette or channel kill me.So, I started the cassette.So here we are cassette in hand.And he says, there's a magnetic master named Cry in trying to get ahold of.

And I thought to myself, that that doesn't even compute that's nice.That's nice for you, my friend, but not for me.I have, I'm 45 years old and I have a career and it's successful and I'm happy and I'm not going to now suddenly go off into uh and talk to uh to shelter or dr zoom or whoever it is, you're going to tell me to go see.

And that was it.And I went home and something in my brain and this is where it gets good.Said I heard that phrase before, I heard the name, cry on before.Could it be that the other guy,

the old guy that's younger than I am today? But the old guy, I said, what if he had said that phrase to, I found a cassette, played it and he had verbatim word for word.Now I had an engineering puzzle,

logic puzzle, linear puzzle.How could two men didn't know each other three years apart, 40 years apart in age? Give me the same identical message on an entity they'd never heard of.Now that is not solvable in engineering.

I didn't have my slide rule with me and I wouldn't help you see what I'm saying.And it drove me crazy.And that's the laughing part because I had to know I experienced something that didn't make sense to me and my logical brain.Here we go.

And this is for everybody.Have you ever had anything where you know where spirit is going to, Would you look at this? Would you look at this? Would you look at this? Maybe you'll be interested if you make a step forward?

And I did.I got a chair out.I said I have to know I have to know and Jan wasn't included crowd wasn't included me in a little room with a chair and I said cry on whoever you are, whatever you are with a funny name.

If you're real, I'm going to sit in the chair, do your thing.And if you don't, I'm getting out of the chair and I'll know it's a fake.So I put a flea step, that's the fleece that is like prove it.

And I'm telling people if this is real before we're teaching is real, go ahead and do that, go ahead.Because you'll you will, you're gonna find things happen because all what you're doing is open the door possibilities of spirit to say hello, Okay,

did you lose me? No, but as your this is really if you're if you're watching this literally I didn't touch anything.My video just stop.If we just keep just keep going then.So the bottom line is this.

I had the chair there.I put out the police cry and show me if you I sat in the chair and immediately I wept.I couldn't control it, tears running down my cheeks.I was so upset at that.

I popped out of the chair.I actually said to the chair, don't ever do that again.I mean it was this was such a non sequitur, how can this happen? And I it happened to me and there was no messages, there was no writing on the wall,

there were no voices out of the sky.It was completely and totally emotional.What happened to me as I was, I was filled with the love.I had not really felt before.Not like that.

Not like that.And then I had to do it again? And then I had to do it again.And pretty soon the cause and relationship cause an effect cause and effect got into my linear brain and says, I can't understand it,

but it's real.That's the point.I don't understand, but it's real.And so I encourage people to say and I say to them, there are many things in in this whole idea of what we do and what we teach and the idea that consciousness can be energy and all the things that we are looking at.Don't try to figure it out.

Because if you accept it and you start working it like the laws of attraction, creating your own reality.You know, And suddenly things start happening and you go, wow.

And other people say, how do you do that? You can say, I don't know, but I know how I did.I did it for myself.I know what I did.I just don't know how it works.So then the last thing I'll say about this and because I'm trying to make the story is that this just now I hear the uh the angels all the time go going major look major look major look and that's exactly what happened is that they gave me something to look at and I couldn't leave it alone.

And when I looked the whole world changed mm All right.There's there's, there's a lot to even unpack in that story.And, and do you want me to continue calling you lee and cry on or both or no, I am bleeding and okay.

And occasionally, Well, there is a definitely meld what you're talking to me.Yeah, Okay.Because I can feel, I was like, do a call both.Um, you know, this is something, Gosh,

I think what you said first of all that, it was a feeling.It was an emotion.That's what it started with and that.And I love that you're an engineer because honestly, that is like the,

that is the quintessential linear brain that is, you know, you're clean to think like that.And gosh, what you just said, I want everyone to really get this.You can,

we you can't under, you couldn't understand, you can't understand it, but it is real.It doesn't mean it's not real.Can I give you an example crimes even channel this and you're going to get in your car.And uh,

for those of you who say, show me, show me, show me, I only believe in things that are real.I only do this and that you get in your car.Do, the first thing you do of course, is you go into your glove compartment and you figure out and look at the schematics of how your automatic transmission works.

And the answer is no, I just start the car.And I go, excuse me, do you know how it works and you say no, but it does.And I say bingo, this is the world, this is what we're talking about.

Trust something that works amazing.So I'm from there.You know, I'm assuming you went from this, this great career as an engineer.I mean talk about a totally different shift in turn.I mean,

I hear obviously just a full surrender and trusting to really, I know you hear that, but that's not what happened.Hey, tell us what happened.I was scared spit less.That's what happened.

I didn't, I didn't want to then come out to all my friends and say, guys, you'll never believe this.But I, I'm now talking to an entity from beyond, you know, and I'm and my employees and my engineers and I like that.

I didn't do that.And you know, they found out later and I kept this quiet because I was afraid books by I am the Chandler, I'm your teacher today.I was afraid.I was afraid of what they might think.

It was.I wasn't afraid.It wasn't real.It's double negative.I knew it was real.But I was afraid of the reaction of my family and my friends and my employees.I didn't want to lose my business At one point in time.

I said to spirit, I am, I'm afraid of what's going to happen.I think what if I lose my my friends and my family and all this is over all of this, you know, And and that was me just saying,

you know, take me to a place where this won't happen in spirit.I remember the answer to that.I got in the shower and that was Spirit said, do you want to know me or not? Do you want to know me or not?

And that was frightening because I realized whole, there's something bigger here and I'll tell you in the end, I ended up losing all of them friendship.I didn't lose them in death.

I lost them in friendship.They are, but I gained a family that was the best family I have ever I could ever ask for.It was it's astonishing.So it's this and something better.We make up our minds what we want and the bubble that we're in not understanding that there are perhaps there's something even better for us.

It's like their spirit, let me keep this job, please let me keep this job.And this fear comes says, oh you don't want the better one because we we just assume that if we're not going to keep this job, I'm going to fire me,

I'm gonna be on the street.We don't think about the better ones.You know? And so that was it.I tell you I was so fearful.If you want to see any of my books have 14 books with five with hay house and the rest are with me And the ones that I published, including the original one has my name is not on the cover lee carroll is not there.

And you know what author do you know whose name is not on the cover? It's on the back and it's in the back and it doesn't even have my full name in 10 point type.It says L carroll.

And I did that for three books until I awaken to a bigger truth even than in layers of awakening even as the channeler.And I realize I don't have to do it anymore.Where?

Well, I kept doing it all the way through my last book, just as a reminder of this story to let people see this and know this and what what we go through.We all you have permission to walk through fear and all these things when the awakening starts to occur,

you don't just you know, fairy doesn't come down to touch you and poof, you know, you're different.We worked the puzzle, We're working into another reality that we didn't know that nobody ever told us.People said,

well you were a good christian boy at that time.What happened? What did you do? I mean, did you And that that question, people say, well, I got out of one box and got into another.I mean that's how we think,

right.So we we uh we stopped believing in all the things we had in church and we get them to start getting whoa, whoa, that's not what happened at all.God got bigger for me.

I kept everything I learned in church about the incredible love of spirit that I was taught.And then it got bigger, a lot bigger.So a lot of the doctrines that I was taught, including a punishing God and all those things were swept away because I got a bigger truth,

but I didn't have to throw away my church friends or they threw me away.Actually, they didn't, but I didn't stop loving any of them.I did.And I saw the value of what I had been through in my church.I'm so glad I went to that church,

because they tempered me and got me ready for this.So, you know, you know, we're very linear in how we think it's uh it's this box or that box or we're doing this for that, not understanding,

it's something that flows, it can get a lot larger and more beautiful.And at the same time the players start shifting and they start changing.And that is what the beauty of this is that things start being brought to you because you're asking for it and living correctly and have a higher consciousness, you never thought would happen.

Oh my goodness.I so appreciate it so much in what you're saying, My brain is like, I want to ask about this and this.And I think one thing I do want to ask to start with is this fear because I can hear sometimes people listening, there's a lot of shift right now on the planet obviously and fear is um you know it's listening to and I,

I could feel myself on a cry just imagining all your friends and your life, I mean that's that's not an easy thing to go through to just to move into this, this life and and have that change.

I'm curious what helped you in your times of fear in that, in that, that that shift, I know it didn't happen overnight.What did you lean on? And was it the work of cry on with you? Like what helped you sort of pulling the nuggets that can help others in fear.

I'm not really sure that my experience necessarily could be echoed on to anybody else, but I can give you the principal is that the love of spirit is so much grander than anything that you could possibly fear as you can rest in the arms of God and that's what you can do and there is such peace there.It's like I tell people no matter what's going on in your life,

no matter what disease you think you have, no matter what relationship issue you might have or what's going on financially, you can sit in a place where all of that is wiped away at almost a moment and just feel like none of it is important based upon what is important and what is important is a tremendous, complete,

tremendous potential for the solution of all of them, All of them.I have seen miracles in my life.I've had miracles in life.I've had health miracles.I've had uh, financial miracles.

I've had all of these things and not one of them did I ever think could happen.And it's almost like they fell from the sky.And I have heard this time after time when we talk about people who start to awaken to this, what we're now calling law of attraction,

that joe dispenser, teachers and great Britain teachers, all of these things about if consciousness truly is energy and not just a mam Z pam's anything that floats in the air.If consciousness,

energy that means it probably has energetic physical rules.And one of them we have discovered is that how you think is what becomes your reality.I had a, a good friend in high school who's,

who was a hypochondriac.We knew that in high school and I don't know why he was afraid of every everything disease.He wore gloves, the whole routine.I mean he was, he was afraid of uh,

he would catch everything.And then of course as we grew older and all he was afraid of cancer and he was afraid of this or that in the end he caught everything and died.In other words,

it's almost like he had a menu open and he listed the things he was going to catch because he was verbalizing them daily to everybody and the menu was fulfilled.And I tell people what's your menu,

what comes out of your mouth? What are you afraid of? Uh and because every time you verbalize it into the air with this energy of consciousness, there is a field ready to bring it to you.And that's the truth.

And we have found that is so true.People who are constantly complaining and worried about something in their life, we'll probably get it.And I'm not talking about just disease.I'm talking about anything I'm talking about,

I'm afraid of losing my job.I'm afraid of losing my job.I'm afraid of losing my job.Guess what? I lost my job.You know, I'm afraid I'm afraid of my relationship, I'm afraid I'm afraid.

And it's and it's and it ends and you get these stories constantly from people and use and and have you do you know people who are constantly in trouble? Yeah.

Who are playing the same tape to you every time you call them.Well, how are you today? Well, this happened? And you never believe this, but this happened and this happened and this happened and they'll, and you they'll say,

I think I just attract bad things and you want to say yes, you do.You want to say and here's why, because that's all you verbalize, that's all you verbalize.So I've told people what affirmations and watching what you say,

that it's like gold, sir.If you start actually starting to think, it's not thinking positive, it's an energy of your consciousness more than how you think.It's what you project with the energy,

what you say, how you feel about what really is going to happen, You start turning that around and things start happening that are good, seen as positive by us.And there's and then there's always guys,

there's always, and I'll tell you as you start to awaken this week, crying is doing a series that's going to be in uh quite sure on my site, in november december for free is a series of channels calling attributes of awakening.And because so many people are starting to what I will call,

get out of the box and think a little differently and there are attributes that don't sound so good because we are rebooting, We're reframing were starting to call things different, we're looking around and there's there's um emotional trauma with it.

Sometimes there's uh higher highs and lower lows, there's because we're transitioning to something we didn't expect and it's not going to happen instantly.There there's work to be done.

I've gone through three or four or five layers now in my work where I thought it was fine and I came in and found I wasn't fine and there was another level to go through, I'll never be done.

there's levels all the time, I so appreciate what you're talking about, this whole idea of a menu, just going back to that and to really be mindful, what are you ordering? Like what are you ordering on the menu?

You said something it's so interesting when I asked about the fear and he said well I don't know this is my experience, although well this love of spirit is bigger than anything, I felt like that just lit up the entire,

our entire interview and to me as I'm listening in addition to you were talking about you know what you're projecting your affirmations which what you're saying, what what seemed to me to really also be part of this is this elixir that this divine love,

that spirit, that that is the ultimate, that can, you know if you're in fear because I think um you know personally I know others who have written in, I feel like I caught a fear bug for a little while um it's what I called it,

I said I gotta fear bug and it started to get bigger and I, I felt like I know better um and then that got me into judgment and I thought ari spirit like please just take over, like just like just take over like take over the wheel,

take over the show, like I don't know what's happening and I think anyhow for when you're in that fear love that, you know these are some really powerful ways to re steer, you know,

the car different, a different route.We don't, there's even more and we we have to take into consideration our culture and I'm talking about the Western world culture, whether in europe or here Canada or Australia,

but we have a Western culture and that culture is has a commonality and that is mostly Christianity.And I want to just say right now, and you can write me letters or whatever.It's a situation where we're all taught from birth from our parents,

from our church when they take us that we are not worthy.Now, that goes right into your psychology and it goes into your subconscious for life.By the time you're six or seven years old, Bruce Lipton will tell you when you interview him,

he says, by the time you're seven years old, all the receptors on all the genes have figured it out.And so here's what I figured out.I'm not worthy now, it opens us up to being told what we have to do and whether that's whether the pharmacy companies or that's with another church or something,

but we're told we aren't worth it.And if you get to the spirituality, we're told we cannot talk to God directly.Um, and we're not unless we do something else.So,

and if we don't, I mean, we're going to be punished and so that sits on you right now, all of us who have come through that kind of a religious training.And if you haven't even gone to church,

it's there because it's all around you, it's all around you.Maybe your parents or maybe they went to church or not distill that is our culture.So what we have to get out of is that box, It's the fear box.

The fare box of the fact I'm not doing it right, I'm not worthy to try what's going to happen if I do it wrong.And there's the other thing, there is no wrong.We made that up.

Those are men's rules.We we have a complete total dysfunctional God.If you're going to believe in some of these boxes, everybody wants you to get in that are religious boxes, we have a dysfunctional god.

We have a God who created us in love, put us on the planet, you have the Adam and Eve story.And of course one human does something wrong, which then is going to make all of the humans billions and trillions of humans from then on are going to be punished in hell with their skin being torn off daily.Uh,

and you think I'm making that up.I saw that on depiction in church in Italy for all the kids to see it's in the church, it's a picture of help you worship and you'll get up and there's a picture of hell, what does this tell us?

You know, what kind of a God is this And that has been bought so completely by a billion people.And I'm wondering at some point they may back up and say maybe that's not the full love of God.Maybe that's a little bit of men in there and maybe God loves us better than that because otherwise it's like a greek god and we want to go back to the greek gods because they were all dysfunctional.

We do really truly have have a dysfunctional god.What if it was pure love without guilt, without punishment And all God wants from us is to be for us to find that love and change our lives.I need to take a moment.

I'm like can you repeat that last line? And that was so beautiful.I thought what if all God wants from us all the whole package everything, wipe everything away, not what you eat,

not what you wear, not which direction your face everything is to find the love pasted in ourselves and live it.Uh huh.I we were born to find this creator.We have the equipment.

We are multidimensional beings.If you doubt that.Why is there such a field called quantum biology? We are multi dimensional beings and we have a consciousness which is so powerful it can create matter out of nothing.And they've been doing that in India for 100 years and nobody's looking so there are so many things that are mysteries or magic to us and they're not,

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Hi, I'm as I'm listening to you know, I'm thinking about when you talk about your first experience as I'm hearing you and I would say this to everyone just feeling your words.Feeling it makes I'm holding back tears,

I'll be honest.I think I could just ball, it's so beautiful.Um and to really sit with this is this is our birthright, all of us any human beings.For everyone, You're interviewing me and I've been doing this for 32 years,

I'm learning to and the biggest thing that crime has ever told any of us is for everybody.this is not for the few of us who writing books and and being on interview shows and if if it weren't, so you might as well just shut off the camera because what good does it do to have a few people doing this?

Everybody has to hook in and that's what's going on right now.I wanna, can I tell you something else when I started um and and all through my career and I've had many layers of what I've done and I like that I have been the ones who have been attracted to my work have mostly been people who are done with having kids and all like that and there are 40 and over and so that's my crowd and I will go and wherever I go, whether it's your upper here and how big the crowds are whatever I look out in the audience and I see People were 40 year old and I had the big ha ha awakening,

not just the fact, not here because this is because of social media and all of that when I was on the stage of the Alabama theater, Obama, that's not right, I mean Sabina,

I'm getting it wrong, Oh please forgive me all those people in Israel uh that was what was in the film and there were, I was on stage alone, Obama theatre and it was 1000 Israelis theatre was packed spotlight has me, I'm sitting the chair,

but even though the spotlight is on me, I can see a little about what's out there, I couldn't really see the people very well until the pictures came back and all I saw was t shirts I realized I was talking to 40 and under and they were listening to me because they were feeling it and a whole bunch of young people are awakening saying, you know,

this makes sense these things, I'll take a look or I won't or whatever, but at least they're listening and that's different.That is one of the most different things that has happened to me I say in the last decade is that we're seeing more and more start to look Yeah, that's so powerful and I know this is from the one field the film.

That's right and that's right and that they filmed that and that's become, as I say part of the film because they're they're jewish team and this, this is a film from them and I'm so glad because they're crying has actually said as as go the Jews go the world, in other words,

they've got to solve their problems and what you're going to see their as they solve theirs will be commensurate with how the world is going to.And they have got an almost unsolvable, insurmountable problem.

And they'll tell you the adults the reason they weren't in the theater because they'll tell you it's not solvable.They will say, well, you know, it's called the situation and it will remain.And the young people are looking at it differently And there they you realize that in that country when you are being grown up,

you're being told who your enemies are and by the time again, you're 10 years old, you know, who did what to whom and who you should hate and who you should love.And that is the truth.

Ask him, ask him.And so you're always being aware they're surrounded supposedly by their enemies.But the young people are waking up to a bigger truth because they've met some of those enemies who are their age and they're looking at each other eyeball to eyeball and saying, why don't we throw away the old stuff that happened and create some new stuff for ourselves?

And that is tough because you have a history of who killed whom, who did, what to whom and why and all that and who deserves this and that and you don't have to then repeat it.You don't even have to believe it if you can start again wipe the slate and do something different.

And we don't even think that way.But I was seeing a bunch of young people who were, who were listening and the message that crying gave in that theater that said you've been living in black and white forever and color is coming and the color is for the young people to look at each other and go, let's start this whole thing again.

This feels so pertinent to what we're dealing with as well right now on a global level and part of I, you know, I'm curious case why I sometimes feel like I can be a little Pollyanna or you know, what's the positive?

Like I'm trying to search for what what's the gift in what's happening right now? And I'm curious what you what crying has is sharing that is for us to learn right now because it's such a people, I feel like what you're sharing.

It's like the, That's like the epicenter of the situation in the dilemma and then there's the global like massive upheaval on so many levels and curious in all your 32 plus years.Like what what's our what's the,

what are we learning here? What can we learn and how can we raise our consciousness so that we can I talk a lot about and then quick and all, but there's a lot to say here, There really is.

First of all, everything that your experience is absolutely right on schedule.This is not a mystery.It's not something new.It's been predicted and it's been predicted in odd way.It's been predicted by the ancients.

And it all revolves around the procession of the equinox is at 2012 for hundreds of years, the ancients, the Mayan and more.Talk to us about what might happen on or around the year 2000 up to the year 2012.There was like a uh 18 year window there where something could happen and it has to do again with the earth and it has to do with the wobble of the earth.

And you think what has that got to do with anything? Well, remember what we're teaching that consciousness is energy, the planet is part of us asking indigenous.And you will see that there is a correlation.

I mean, I've got science for you to talk about a correlation if you want to, so does Greg brady and so does Princeton University.So here we are with a premise, something is going to happen for the year 2000 or or brr 2012.

Now, take a look at the prophecy.What does your bible say, christian? It says that in the year 2000 or 2000 and one or whatever we're going to have an Armageddon, we're gonna be,

we're gonna have World War Three, in other words.It was also saying the same thing.So there's been many, many prophecies talking about this area of time, it was coming.

I remember sitting in church and hearing evangelists tell us we were doomed and it was gonna be, we're gonna we better get it together before the year 2000 because it was all coming to a head.So we all had a prophecy,

okay, so did the ancients.And here it was, If you don't kill yourself and you make it through the year 2000 by 2012, there's going to be an explosion of consciousness, the highest consciousness that humans have ever experienced.

It's the next step that is the ancients prediction.That's not a new age thing that came right from the ancients and from the Maya.You can read it, you know, in their temples on the walls,

All about this precession of the equinoxes.So here we are 2012 occurred and suddenly things started happening.Now stop a moment we are in this little box of ours called watch the news and get frayed.That's all you've got.

And that little watched the news and get afraid is your whole world and that's practice why everybody's afraid the world's going to hell and all like that.And so we're extremely in the now we're only about,

you know, we're we got A life that lasts for 12 hours and we go to sleep, we get up watch the news, we figure out what's going to happen.First of all my just my advice to everybody is don't watch the news.It's an entertainment media.

They've got music and pictures and they plan it and they make you afraid.And if they don't, then there are other channel well and they will have more money because the marketing is that way.So if you want to get the news,

get it on the internet from a channel you like on the net, read it, read the articles that you want to don't have them presented like a movie to you.So you'll feel a certain way.That's the first thing.

But let me just get back to this, this whole idea of what's going on light is winning folks and you don't know it because things happen slow.What is winning? I want to give you 2-3 examples very quickly and I've given them and many,

many podcasts that okay if I do that.Oh my gosh way.You just take take the mic.I'm like crying over here.It's beautiful.People have heard me before.I get tired of these stories, but I don't,

I don't because they, they nail it for me.Okay.Um, first of all, let's talk about women's rights.Let's talk about not only women's rights for the position of women in our country all over the planet and what it has been for hundreds of years and what it is today, The Me Too movement is something that shocked and surprised everybody.

My father for instance, he said, this is the way it works.And this is where women probably will always be because it's the consciousness that we have as men And they will be put down.They'll be asked to do inappropriate things in order to get better jobs,

you know? And if you take a look at the commercials in the 50s, it's just a riot to think about the difference and where, what has happened between then and here and the place.Well,

it did change.And when did it change? And the answer is just a few years ago now, how can something be is that's so basic hundreds of years? One way where women are thought and looked and it just is and is and is and bam suddenly there's an explosion appropriateness.I mean,

people are looking at a higher consciousness level in order to say this isn't right.They ought to have equality.We that they should be treated like anybody else.They,

you know, and it's it's almost like, uh, I'm sorry, kind of a thing.And now they're coming into their own now.Is that just a coincidence that it happened with the time? I don't think so.

I think that is an example of a higher consciousness on the planet.How long I know, don't give me letters, but how long have priests been abusing kids? I mean,

in Philadelphia, we've got 1000 cases.How many do you think have been on the planet? And how long has this been going on? And the answer would be probably since there was a church, we're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.

That's what I think.And if you go back and find out it simply was the way of it.Such an unconscionable thing was happening and happening and happening.Not only did it get exposed,

but we have a pope who is trying to deal with it.Now.You figure that out.That pope, by the way, is also a miracle.If you figure out, I mean, he took over from the position of a living pope.When has that happened last?

There's so many things that you can look at that happened in this time frame to give us this kind of turnaround.We are starting to see things differently.I've talked to my black friends many many times and they say one of the issues in the States is that something will come to a head where their will be abuse,

whether it's from government or police or whatever.And there will be a reaction, Probably inappropriate riots and all they get to get our attention.The Congress says they'll do something.We all get excited and nothing happened.

Mm hmm.And then it will happen again and nothing happens.And then will happen again.In other words, they're used to this wave of, uh, oh yes, it's probably not right.And we'll do something and nothing happens this time.

It will and that you're seeing it, there is still going on.I mean even to to the what what I think is probably not the answer but they're going right for it.Let's defund the police.

So that's probably not the answer.But it's Karen, everybody who is looking at their society going no no wait a minute.We need will still need them to come to our house.But uh and you know,

help.But it's getting the attention, it's not going away, it's not going away.Something is going to happen, whether we're going to start vetting our policemen from the academy by the citizens or whether there's going to be something, whatever it is,

it's going to have a more permanent answer than they ever had before.And that is us looking at us saying it's got to get better with a higher consciousness.Covid has put us all in our houses.

Mhm.For a year in some manner and I'm being metaphor, it stopped the world.We had a war folks without a war.Do you realize that mm We had a war without a war.Yes,

there was some death.But we we had if you if you want to talk to your grandparents and find out what world War two was like this is it everything stops and you know and uh controlled whether you get jobs or not jobs where you go we had a war without a war and in that we had to come together and do things we never have had to do as long as I've been alive, you're forced together with your family.

In a way that you never were before.There's different ways of teaching and being and doing and jobs and all for everybody.It's almost global brian gave an example, will this all stop this talk?

But about this one.But he gave an example of channeling and he says, there's a factory and this factory makes everything for everybody and it has to keep going.If it stopped,

there would be massive change.So it's cranking out products is cranking out food.It's crank going And in this there are people who are coming up to the manager saying, look,

this machine over here is not working well.In fact, it's a dumb machine and it keeps breaking and it's costing us a lot of money and we should stop and retool.The manager says,

we can't stop the factory.Well, jim over here comes the manager and he says, you know, uh George over there has been pocketing a lot of the income from all the products.He just takes some money,

stuffs it in his pocket and goes home.And then he other people saw and he's given it to them too.So there's we're draining money over there is corruption over there by your own people making the products and the manager says can't stop the factory, we'll look into it.

And of course, you know, you know where this is going suddenly the factory has been stopped.Mm hmm.Now what is going on right now is the retooling, it's the cleaning up of the corruption.We have a chance now to do things we've never done before because stuff is stopped.

And there's other things brian has said for years, we're going to see one big thing happened.I was waiting to find out how this is going to be.And in my opinion, it may be the beginning the fall of inappropriate big pharma.

The ones who keep you sick for money and know it the ones who are advertising on tv because of an obscure law that they passed that they could advertise products like that and that tell you you're sick and here's what you need for it.All of these kinds of things.

We've been seeing this for a very long time.Client says that is an inappropriate thing completely and how higher consciousness will eventually stop it.Now,

that's going to take awhile folks.But would you not agree that that would be a good thing.And especially when you figure out that there we know it that there are many who have cures that are not letting them out until they get their amortization schedules right? Another seven years and it doesn't matter how many people die because they're gonna get a lot of money out of it before it comes generic and they can bring out the one,

but they know works better so that's working and has worked a lot in our society for them, not for us.And that's going to be something that we're going to see.There's other things that brian says are going to happen.

We're waiting for some inventions when we have a higher consciousness and it has nothing to do with artificial intelligence.Ai let it let it vacuum our homes and drive our cars.But our consciousness is a lot,

a lot more important than anything that that technology will ever bring us from your experience or in connecting with crying.Because I'm hearing this question of how do I raise my consciousness now? I feel silly asking that I have some thoughts on it,

but I want to hear from you and cry on because it's so important, what can we do? I mean, I know watching, stop watching the news is definitely one of them that you said earlier.I actually can't watch it.

I'm too much of an empath.And I get very I can't I can't um and if you're watching, we're asking you please do not because it's sensationalized.Um what are other ways that everyone listen can raise their consciousness and start becoming more aware and awake? Let's start beginning.

I want to revisit that because I want people to walk away from this with one idea we've been doing this long enough and on streaming and all the people will hear say one thing and report another and they will say, well I watched the podcast,

we're not supposed to know the news.That's not what we're saying.We're saying there is media that is better than television and is more accurate.Be informed.But get it from a place that is not a movie that's going to control what you see when you see it with music.

All right.That that's entertainment folks and it postures you in a certain way.They know what to do.They have known what to do for years and years.Get it, get your news in a place that makes sense.

Read it in a place you trust back to the newspaper.If you have to, it's probably online from places you trust and read and absorb it in your own time and then you'll find out without the fear.Okay.

You get to a place and you say, how can I be more aware, how can I raise my consciousness? You have to mean it.That's the first thing we're used to pills were, um,

we're used to taking a pill and haven't worked for us and this is not the case.We have to cognizable that we want this.Now.Cognizant is for firm belief.For instance,

we believe in gravity and such a way that we absolutely know that when we walk off a cliff, we're going to fall down.That's a cognitive thing.It's not a belief.So I've worked this puzzle so many times where you say,

okay, I'll try this and I'll try that.And I've tried this and I've gone to this person and that person, this is something you do for yourself.You sit down first and you say their spirit this, you made me look bring me something someone,

some whatever situation that's going to help me to achieve what I came for, help me to love you more.Help me to straighten out my life for people looking for the right diet, uh crying has said,

you're also different.Don't don't expect one diet for everybody.You say dear spirit bring me the intuition to know what I should eat.That is perfect for my body right now in this lifetime.And these things start coming in and that is called co creation.

When we cognizable, we want and start believing this is going to happen to me.There's a higher consciousness available.There is a loving God that's wanting to get through to me.I'm going to work this puzzle.

I've got a ticket for the train and I can see it and the train now is going to come in various stages and show me until it assembles itself and I get on it and it may take a while.So it really is not just let go and let God.

It's let go and let yourself find God in a way in a way that people don't trust they want other people to tell them what to do in order to accomplish these magical things, it's inside it really is.

Now you may be led then to a healer or a product or process that is great.So I'm not saying throw away healers, I'm saying you will be led to the ones who help you and your condition the most Because all these healers that we've been doing on, on healing Wednesdays for for the past year,

you had 52 of them, almost 60.Now, all of them have processes that help and heal people and many of those are to actually make them more aware.It's not a pill and so you see there are counselors available.If you might say to help you in your awareness,

it might bring you there and that is what happens to so many of us is that we ask in silence to have it shown and bang in will come a name in, will come a show, we watch or something or a book and we'll read it or we'll go.

There we go.I want to know more about this and in the process of that their lead to a higher truth.They go, oh my thank you for you for you healer whatever.So there is such a wonderful place for the healers and of the,

of the, of the new age or whatever you want some of our time and that's what they're doing, they're helping you to increase your awareness if I can just add for it was so cool about this first.I love what you're saying.

It goes back to we, first of all, we all have that innate connection to spirit.It's within, it's an inner, it's an inside job.And I, you know, it's funny, I'm laughing because this is a few years ago I've been connecting to my intuition and what's right to eat and what do I need to really to be julie with spirit and answers the question,

I think for all of us, how do we embody spirit as us? And a friend of mine, my friend Lauren was like, you should check out cry on and I'm like, I don't know who that is and I heard you and I was like, oh my gosh,

who is like what? This, this my whole body.I was like, okay.And I just so I'm laughing and I'm grateful because it's it's one of those moments of like thank you spirit, like clearly,

you know, you've had that impact on millions and millions and I think he's like you said, let your in our spirit guide intuition, let that guide you and all of it and it's going to be different for each of us.Just like we think entirely different.

We've had healers on our show that real healers that were, that dealt mainly with energy from computer programs they develop that interface with consciousness.I mean it sounds,

it sounds magic and crazy.It works.It works.Uh and we've there's something for everybody and some people would look at that and go as not for me and then somebody else will come along who deals with um the plants of the planet and uh herbology and things.I know this is what I want,

you know? So there's there's something for everybody.And this is back to the engineer that I was there.None of that would have worked for me.But I had a logic puzzle and this is this is the fun part that I go back to the beginning now is the spirit knows you so well and intimately just waiting for you to sit down and say bring it.That's awesome and then watch what happens and watch what happens.

I if it's okay, I have one or two quick questions that I just for those who are newer to cry on.And I guess my curiosity is I know you always say it says of magnetic service number one.Do you get an image of this consciousness?

Is it more of a feeling? And what does that mean? Magnetic service? I'll tell you just briefly you can look it up if you wish.And I didn't know I had no idea.People wanted to know what do I have an angel.

I can stick on the refrigerator and and there's nothing to do with that and I didn't know and I didn't know until the late, I would say nineties into the year 2000 and all.Then just I had this ah ha It's something that we were going to discover that has led me right now to even the one field It was called.

There.There were two experiments on this planet by ongoing.One of them was called the Global Coherence Initiative by heart math.It's still there today.You can take a look at it.

Greg Brayden is on their board.He knows about it.We'll talk about it.They had an experiment going on where they had magnetic sensors all over the planet measuring the strength of the magnetic grid.The idea that they had God bless them.

This is one of their intuitions and they spent money is this if something happens globally that everybody can see and feel, would it change the magnetic grids strength Now? If it did it would be absolute 100% proof that consciousness is physics.

You see that.And it did at 9 11.They didn't expect this at 9 11.Not only did all their sensors pick it up, but two satellites in orbit that measure the strength of the magnetic grid picked it up.It went three times the strength immediately.

Right after the planes hit those towers actually a little before that changed the magnetic grid of the planet and it wasn't the one Z.It happened again in another place, a couple other places.

I think one was death of Princess Di.It was a total and complete proven relationship between the strength of the magnetic grid going up and down and a global event.This is what Lynne McTaggart has been working with for so long.

She knows that this is very doable that consciousness affects things in other places.And so only then that I realized it was the magnetic grid all along the crime has been talking about that contains the bubble of consciousness.For us.

It works with our consciousness.There's something to do with Magnetics and our consciousness that's correlated And that pegged it for me.And then I knew that's the magnetic master because there's something there.We haven't discovered it yet.

That's going to be Probably part of what we do, Magnetics crime says is the future of all energy.And we actually have free energy now.But nobody is looking at it.Nobody is developing and nobody's seeing it.

But it's all over.And it's very obvious you've got Magnetics and push and pull so you can't even pull them apart.And and it's natural, it's uh it'll go for 4000 years.You come back and still pushing and pulling folks maybe that ought to push and pull and something you can,

you know, an engine or something and not use one drop of fossil fuel uh talks about it being the future of how our transportation will be all that.That's where the magnetic master came in so way before its time.We'll look back someday and realize the joke.

I'm just now seeing oh what a what a thank you for tying that together.I'm a huge fan.We've had Dr Debbie Rosman and robert McCready and talking about this.I didn't put that together until you said that about the global either.

I didn't eat and that was the big hall.I laughed for so long.I went Now I know um uh my mind I don't like to say is blown because I'm like, I don't want to it's blown.It's blowing.

My mind is like a beautiful that I like, I like to imagine folks, it's all Provable science.Those are global consciousness project with Princeton or they talked about random things becoming suddenly Um synchronized at the same time that 9-11 happened.In other words,

consciousness may be a tremendous physical energy.We don't even know the rules of it yet.We're just discovering what we can do with our lives.You know, and uh you got star trek that they they make meals out of it.

You know what their um in India and I'll just just say we know that there are certain masters in the past have actually been able to manifesting material and matter with their consciousness and that's been photographed and known and all.We don't I don't know why that was never on CNN I guess we just figure it's uh stuff that's magic and doesn't matter and we don't care.

But it's been with us for so long.Gregg Braden will tell you we have the solutions almost every problem today.And we've known it for a very, very long time since nobody let it out.It wasn't time.

Well, I know we're ready.I'm ready.I don't even listening.We're like uh like you said Spirit bring it, Please bring it.Last question would just be I call them heart flares.If there's anything I didn't ask you anything in your heart that you would like to share with our listeners.

Yes, I will tell you that there is one thing that I would like to tell everybody that the secret, it's not really a secret.It's the most sacred thing you can be and do and and and look do and that's joy.Joy is sacred.

And the more you laugh and the more excited you are about these kinds of joyful things, it starts to heal your heart, clear your mind and then you start getting solutions that fear has blocked.So be joyful as much as you can laugh as much as you can.

You know, And you've had situations I know where when you all laugh together, suddenly all the barriers came down and you're able to hug each other and all that stuff.That's what I'm talking about and it's more than just an elixir.

You know, it's it's it's sacred.It's sacred.It's God given for that reason, so be joyful.It has been a complete joy.My cheeks are hurting from smiling uh and delight and honor, li you are just just a gift a gem.

Thank you so much.Beautiful.Mhm My friend, I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.I created this podcast from my own heart's desire to amplify the vibration of compassion,

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I'm so,
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So,
I already recorded the conversation with lee carroll.
Um and I am sharing a little bit about his background after we already spoke and I just want to tell you that this conversation was so powerful,
went so deep.
We spoke all about really how to tap into this power of pure love Of your heart.
We talked about the law of attraction.
I don't want to give it all away.
Lee carroll channels cry on.
So if you've heard of cry on before,
he has been channeling this higher consciousness for the past 32 plus years.
I've been listening for quite a while and every time I listen to anything that he teaches that lee teaches or that is that blended channeling with cry on it.
It always leaves me feeling just so connected at a deep divine level of spiritual connection.
So I hope that this conversation is going to uplift you as much as it did me.
Um it was,
it was so powerful for me to be part of this conversation and I just kept thinking of you like you're going To love,
love,
love and really,
really,
I think align with what he shared and of course,
as I always say,
take what you like and leave the rest.
So let me tell you a little bit about Lee carroll and cry on uh,
since 1989,
Li has brought the loving messages of cry onto the world.
Lee carroll is the author of 14 Cry on books and co author of the Indigo Children,
An Indigo Celebration and the Indigo Children.
10 years later he has 17 books total these Indigo books introduced the world to the term Indigo Children in 2000 spawning many follow up books by various authors,
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a documentary and lots of interest worldwide regarding our changes.
Changing kits.
The indigo books have sold almost half a million copies worldwide in 24 languages.
During a trip to McCaysville Georgia at Delphi,
metaphysical University in 2012,
lee was surprised with an honorary doctorate degree of Science,
trans personal psychology and metaphysics.
The award indicated for his extraordinary contributions of love,
wisdom and spiritual understanding.
Lee was most recently in the film,
the one field.
You will be meeting the producer of the One field in the next couple later in december.
Amazing,
amazing film all about consciousness and the power of the quantum field.
Lee has been named one of the 100 most spiritually influential living people for four consecutive years by the prestigious Watkins Mind Body Spirit magazine.
It is my honest pleasure,
my honor,
my joy to introduce you to lee.
We're gonna lead an intention and then dive very deep deep into the pool of my friends in this conversation.
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What did you notice?
What are some insights takeaways?
What are you seeing for yourself that is going to help you to really step into your us,
do you all right,
my beloved Us you community,
family,
those who are perhaps new to this podcast and to this episode,
welcome.
This is such a gift,
li I what a what an honor to have you and cry on both of you,
all of you to hear here today.
And I just thought we would start with a little intention.
This is something I love to do before we begin.
Um I know you're not new at this.
So,
um I would just like to put a hand on my heart and um just really feel into Yeah,
beautiful.
So I'm just,
and if you want to add,
I'm just gonna say,
let this conversation really,
really be a beacon of light and uplift every soul that is here listening in and may it really bring a a sense of peace and truth and love and expansion.
And if there's anything you want to add,
that was perfect.
I have nothing more.
That would be redundant.
Okay,
let this be for the highest good of all and so grateful and honored.
You're here.
My energy is just,
I've been so excited,
I'll just share with our listeners.
We,
um,
this feels like a blessed time to do this.
We uh,
we are very,
very thankful that it worked to have you today and just to share you and your wisdom and your story and so thrilled we have principles we teach and the fact that right now is a perfect time for you to do this and for me to do this and we're relaxed and ready.
You know,
that is energy that this targets right through this video into everyone and this is what we believe and so we're not rushed,
we're not anti,
we're not nervous and we've got something to say and the things that we have to say is your intent,
beautiful.
You know,
if we could go back,
I find your background so fascinating and just maybe to share a little bit more about you about how you even came into the world of connecting with Cry on and your and your background career.
Like I know you have a story um this,
this is something I don't know that you planned.
I don't think you planned on ever.
Uh just from what I've read,
I don't want to tell your story,
but maybe you could take us back.
I mean I know you've been doing this for a long time,
but really for those that may be newer to you or don't know your full story.
If if you wouldn't mind,
we would love to just hear how this came to be.
I'll tell you my story is my story that is just all about me.
But the bigger story is what we teach that we are built to find spirit period.
This is what crime has told me.
This is what guides have told me,
you come into this planet and you're given the opportunity with free choice to find a bigger truth and many people call it the veil or whatever.
And so there are many times I believe when spirit gives us,
um what I call the chance to look and then if you don't,
that's fine,
there's no punishment.
There's whatever and that's what I got.
I got a chance to look and the thing that is so much fun about this and I want to be concise and I want everybody to understand.
I was an engineer,
I still am an engineer,
I'm still a nerd.
So that didn't change just because I got metaphysical.
So I'm still li I'm still the guy with no screwdriver in my hand and all that stuff.
And what took place there was tailor made for me and this is I'm going to give this to you in a moment,
but spirit knows who we are so much.
I mean the creator created us.
We have a soul.
It's very well known to the to the creator,
who we are.
And so things happen in our lives that often give us opportunities to look And I got mine.
And the reason this is specific to me,
as you'll see in a moment because of my engineering background of what took place basically.
And just I'll tell you this was um well it was more than 32 years ago when this happened.
But 32 years I've been channeling cry on.
But before that it was three years before that um my wife Jan Tober at my wife at the time who is my best friend now and working with a cry and work.
She said I want you to go to a channeler.
I said no,
basically.
She was into metaphysics.
I was not,
we had an arrangement in our marriage.
Keep me out of your woo woo stuff and I'll keep you out of my engineering.
Um It went one way not the other,
and really?
I said,
no,
I'm not going to go see who dude.
And she says,
first of all,
it's a man that was important to me,
because everybody who was around me who was doing the woo woo stuff and all the magic that I wanted nothing to do with was a woman.
They were all females.
This was a guy.
And so I said,
first of all,
it's first time thought is,
well,
he's obviously gone nuts,
You know,
he's stepped into the world of the girls.
I went to that channel,
er because it was her birthday.
I sat in front of the guy almost,
um need kneecap,
the kneecap,
and he gave me good gibberish.
And I really,
I laughed today because that's what I do.
And so people who would tune in to hear my channeling are going to feel the same way,
they're not going to get it,
it's going to go over their head,
it's gibberish to them who wants this foolishness.
And I left.
And it was a 45 minute session.
I had had a cassette three years later,
and this is I mean,
I didn't even tell her I what I really told her after the session was,
here's your cassette is for your birthday.
I don't want to ever do that.
Uh and then three years later,
another channeler was a psychic.
A young man.
He was in his 20's.
The first guy was in his 60s.
And she said the same thing,
please go to this guy.
I said,
I really don't want to.
She said,
look,
it's going to be.
He only gives like 10,
10 minute readings.
It's it's okay.
Another cassette.
I just want to know what I'm feeling.
So I went to him,
look him in the face and he looked at me even before we sat down and he said,
lee you don't want to be here,
do you?
And I thought I like this guy because he knows he must be psycho,
that's the word I used.
And he just said,
I got a message for me,
He's been coming in all day for you and we don't even have to sit down,
are you ready?
And I said,
wait a minute,
let me start the cassette or channel kill me.
So,
I started the cassette.
So here we are cassette in hand.
And he says,
there's a magnetic master named Cry in trying to get ahold of.
And I thought to myself,
that that doesn't even compute that's nice.
That's nice for you,
my friend,
but not for me.
I have,
I'm 45 years old and I have a career and it's successful and I'm happy and I'm not going to now suddenly go off into uh and talk to uh to shelter or dr zoom or whoever it is,
you're going to tell me to go see.
And that was it.
And I went home and something in my brain and this is where it gets good.
Said I heard that phrase before,
I heard the name,
cry on before.
Could it be that the other guy,
the old guy that's younger than I am today?
But the old guy,
I said,
what if he had said that phrase to,
I found a cassette,
played it and he had verbatim word for word.
Now I had an engineering puzzle,
logic puzzle,
linear puzzle.
How could two men didn't know each other three years apart,
40 years apart in age?
Give me the same identical message on an entity they'd never heard of.
Now that is not solvable in engineering.
I didn't have my slide rule with me and I wouldn't help you see what I'm saying.
And it drove me crazy.
And that's the laughing part because I had to know I experienced something that didn't make sense to me and my logical brain.
Here we go.
And this is for everybody.
Have you ever had anything where you know where spirit is going to,
Would you look at this?
Would you look at this?
Would you look at this?
Maybe you'll be interested if you make a step forward?
And I did.
I got a chair out.
I said I have to know I have to know and Jan wasn't included crowd wasn't included me in a little room with a chair and I said cry on whoever you are,
whatever you are with a funny name.
If you're real,
I'm going to sit in the chair,
do your thing.
And if you don't,
I'm getting out of the chair and I'll know it's a fake.
So I put a flea step,
that's the fleece that is like prove it.
And I'm telling people if this is real before we're teaching is real,
go ahead and do that,
go ahead.
Because you'll you will,
you're gonna find things happen because all what you're doing is open the door possibilities of spirit to say hello,
Okay,
did you lose me?
No,
but as your this is really if you're if you're watching this literally I didn't touch anything.
My video just stop.
If we just keep just keep going then.
So the bottom line is this.
I had the chair there.
I put out the police cry and show me if you I sat in the chair and immediately I wept.
I couldn't control it,
tears running down my cheeks.
I was so upset at that.
I popped out of the chair.
I actually said to the chair,
don't ever do that again.
I mean it was this was such a non sequitur,
how can this happen?
And I it happened to me and there was no messages,
there was no writing on the wall,
there were no voices out of the sky.
It was completely and totally emotional.
What happened to me as I was,
I was filled with the love.
I had not really felt before.
Not like that.
Not like that.
And then I had to do it again?
And then I had to do it again.
And pretty soon the cause and relationship cause an effect cause and effect got into my linear brain and says,
I can't understand it,
but it's real.
That's the point.
I don't understand,
but it's real.
And so I encourage people to say and I say to them,
there are many things in in this whole idea of what we do and what we teach and the idea that consciousness can be energy and all the things that we are looking at.
Don't try to figure it out.
Because if you accept it and you start working it like the laws of attraction,
creating your own reality.
You know,
And suddenly things start happening and you go,
wow.
And other people say,
how do you do that?
You can say,
I don't know,
but I know how I did.
I did it for myself.
I know what I did.
I just don't know how it works.
So then the last thing I'll say about this and because I'm trying to make the story is that this just now I hear the uh the angels all the time go going major look major look major look and that's exactly what happened is that they gave me something to look at and I couldn't leave it alone.
And when I looked the whole world changed mm All right.
There's there's,
there's a lot to even unpack in that story.
And,
and do you want me to continue calling you lee and cry on or both or no,
I am bleeding and okay.
And occasionally,
Well,
there is a definitely meld what you're talking to me.
Yeah,
Okay.
Because I can feel,
I was like,
do a call both.
Um,
you know,
this is something,
Gosh,
I think what you said first of all that,
it was a feeling.
It was an emotion.
That's what it started with and that.
And I love that you're an engineer because honestly,
that is like the,
that is the quintessential linear brain that is,
you know,
you're clean to think like that.
And gosh,
what you just said,
I want everyone to really get this.
You can,
we you can't under,
you couldn't understand,
you can't understand it,
but it is real.
It doesn't mean it's not real.
Can I give you an example crimes even channel this and you're going to get in your car.
And uh,
for those of you who say,
show me,
show me,
show me,
I only believe in things that are real.
I only do this and that you get in your car.
Do,
the first thing you do of course,
is you go into your glove compartment and you figure out and look at the schematics of how your automatic transmission works.
And the answer is no,
I just start the car.
And I go,
excuse me,
do you know how it works and you say no,
but it does.
And I say bingo,
this is the world,
this is what we're talking about.
Trust something that works amazing.
So I'm from there.
You know,
I'm assuming you went from this,
this great career as an engineer.
I mean talk about a totally different shift in turn.
I mean,
I hear obviously just a full surrender and trusting to really,
I know you hear that,
but that's not what happened.
Hey,
tell us what happened.
I was scared spit less.
That's what happened.
I didn't,
I didn't want to then come out to all my friends and say,
guys,
you'll never believe this.
But I,
I'm now talking to an entity from beyond,
you know,
and I'm and my employees and my engineers and I like that.
I didn't do that.
And you know,
they found out later and I kept this quiet because I was afraid books by I am the Chandler,
I'm your teacher today.
I was afraid.
I was afraid of what they might think.
It was.
I wasn't afraid.
It wasn't real.
It's double negative.
I knew it was real.
But I was afraid of the reaction of my family and my friends and my employees.
I didn't want to lose my business At one point in time.
I said to spirit,
I am,
I'm afraid of what's going to happen.
I think what if I lose my my friends and my family and all this is over all of this,
you know,
And and that was me just saying,
you know,
take me to a place where this won't happen in spirit.
I remember the answer to that.
I got in the shower and that was Spirit said,
do you want to know me or not?
Do you want to know me or not?
And that was frightening because I realized whole,
there's something bigger here and I'll tell you in the end,
I ended up losing all of them friendship.
I didn't lose them in death.
I lost them in friendship.
They are,
but I gained a family that was the best family I have ever I could ever ask for.
It was it's astonishing.
So it's this and something better.
We make up our minds what we want and the bubble that we're in not understanding that there are perhaps there's something even better for us.
It's like their spirit,
let me keep this job,
please let me keep this job.
And this fear comes says,
oh you don't want the better one because we we just assume that if we're not going to keep this job,
I'm going to fire me,
I'm gonna be on the street.
We don't think about the better ones.
You know?
And so that was it.
I tell you I was so fearful.
If you want to see any of my books have 14 books with five with hay house and the rest are with me And the ones that I published,
including the original one has my name is not on the cover lee carroll is not there.
And you know what author do you know whose name is not on the cover?
It's on the back and it's in the back and it doesn't even have my full name in 10 point type.
It says L carroll.
And I did that for three books until I awaken to a bigger truth even than in layers of awakening even as the channeler.
And I realize I don't have to do it anymore.
Where?
Well,
I kept doing it all the way through my last book,
just as a reminder of this story to let people see this and know this and what what we go through.
We all you have permission to walk through fear and all these things when the awakening starts to occur,
you don't just you know,
fairy doesn't come down to touch you and poof,
you know,
you're different.
We worked the puzzle,
We're working into another reality that we didn't know that nobody ever told us.
People said,
well you were a good christian boy at that time.
What happened?
What did you do?
I mean,
did you And that that question,
people say,
well,
I got out of one box and got into another.
I mean that's how we think,
right.
So we we uh we stopped believing in all the things we had in church and we get them to start getting whoa,
whoa,
that's not what happened at all.
God got bigger for me.
I kept everything I learned in church about the incredible love of spirit that I was taught.
And then it got bigger,
a lot bigger.
So a lot of the doctrines that I was taught,
including a punishing God and all those things were swept away because I got a bigger truth,
but I didn't have to throw away my church friends or they threw me away.
Actually,
they didn't,
but I didn't stop loving any of them.
I did.
And I saw the value of what I had been through in my church.
I'm so glad I went to that church,
because they tempered me and got me ready for this.
So,
you know,
you know,
we're very linear in how we think it's uh it's this box or that box or we're doing this for that,
not understanding,
it's something that flows,
it can get a lot larger and more beautiful.
And at the same time the players start shifting and they start changing.
And that is what the beauty of this is that things start being brought to you because you're asking for it and living correctly and have a higher consciousness,
you never thought would happen.
Oh my goodness.
I so appreciate it so much in what you're saying,
My brain is like,
I want to ask about this and this.
And I think one thing I do want to ask to start with is this fear because I can hear sometimes people listening,
there's a lot of shift right now on the planet obviously and fear is um you know it's listening to and I,
I could feel myself on a cry just imagining all your friends and your life,
I mean that's that's not an easy thing to go through to just to move into this,
this life and and have that change.
I'm curious what helped you in your times of fear in that,
in that,
that that shift,
I know it didn't happen overnight.
What did you lean on?
And was it the work of cry on with you?
Like what helped you sort of pulling the nuggets that can help others in fear.
I'm not really sure that my experience necessarily could be echoed on to anybody else,
but I can give you the principal is that the love of spirit is so much grander than anything that you could possibly fear as you can rest in the arms of God and that's what you can do and there is such peace there.
It's like I tell people no matter what's going on in your life,
no matter what disease you think you have,
no matter what relationship issue you might have or what's going on financially,
you can sit in a place where all of that is wiped away at almost a moment and just feel like none of it is important based upon what is important and what is important is a tremendous,
complete,
tremendous potential for the solution of all of them,
All of them.
I have seen miracles in my life.
I've had miracles in life.
I've had health miracles.
I've had uh,
financial miracles.
I've had all of these things and not one of them did I ever think could happen.
And it's almost like they fell from the sky.
And I have heard this time after time when we talk about people who start to awaken to this,
what we're now calling law of attraction,
that joe dispenser,
teachers and great Britain teachers,
all of these things about if consciousness truly is energy and not just a mam Z pam's anything that floats in the air.
If consciousness,
energy that means it probably has energetic physical rules.
And one of them we have discovered is that how you think is what becomes your reality.
I had a,
a good friend in high school who's,
who was a hypochondriac.
We knew that in high school and I don't know why he was afraid of every everything disease.
He wore gloves,
the whole routine.
I mean he was,
he was afraid of uh,
he would catch everything.
And then of course as we grew older and all he was afraid of cancer and he was afraid of this or that in the end he caught everything and died.
In other words,
it's almost like he had a menu open and he listed the things he was going to catch because he was verbalizing them daily to everybody and the menu was fulfilled.
And I tell people what's your menu,
what comes out of your mouth?
What are you afraid of?
Uh and because every time you verbalize it into the air with this energy of consciousness,
there is a field ready to bring it to you.
And that's the truth.
And we have found that is so true.
People who are constantly complaining and worried about something in their life,
we'll probably get it.
And I'm not talking about just disease.
I'm talking about anything I'm talking about,
I'm afraid of losing my job.
I'm afraid of losing my job.
I'm afraid of losing my job.
Guess what?
I lost my job.
You know,
I'm afraid I'm afraid of my relationship,
I'm afraid I'm afraid.
And it's and it's and it ends and you get these stories constantly fr