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Welcome my friend to the U.
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To podcast.
I'm julie Rissler and I am so honored to have you here in this show in community.
You'll find huge hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light to learn to trust their heart,
wisdom and help raise the consciousness of this planet just like you,
whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow light worker luminary or solo cast about navigating life as an empath,
my goal is the same.
To help you turn your fear into faith,
to remember that you are sacred,
to realign with your highest potential to be fully self expressed as your you ist.
You are you ready to join me on this journey?
It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.
Never forget the chances of being born were one and 14 trillion.
In other words,
you are pure positive,
divine light born to shine,
to live from your heart and to be your fullest usu Hello beloved us,
You listeners,
my soul family today is a really,
really special day for you,
for me and for all those that are tuning in and hope it's many.
I am so excited to be here with one of my most favorite authors and luminaries people and just getting to talk to him a little before you're gonna get to meet Neale Donald Walsch,
I can tell you he is a man of incredible heart and wisdom and so without further ado,
I want to share with you a little bit about our incredible guests today.
So grateful Neale Donald Walsch has written 39 books on contemporary spirituality and its practical application in everyday life,
including the nine book conversations with God series.
His titles have been translated into 37 languages.
His latest book is the God solution,
an amazing book.
This was published in December 2020 and it proposes an altered and totally non traditional spiritual approach to ending the seemingly interminable struggles of our species.
The gods solution bites humanity to embrace a new global ethic based on a refined and clarify definition of God.
This book proposes that there is a single statement of spiritual truth upon which all the world's religions could agree and which would birth a shift of spiritual paradigms around the globe of such magnitude that it would produce peace and happiness in our planet.
At last,
you can find more about Neale Donald Walsch at his website,
Neale Donald Walsch dot com.
We'll have all of this in the show notes and I just got to share before we bring him on for you to get to meet the amazing Neale Donald Walsch yourself To share that,
you know,
that this book conversations with God Part one literally has been with me since I read it about eight years ago and through the pandemic.
I read or listen to him almost every single day.
And so again,
such an honor without further do.
It is such a pleasure to bring you on Neil and to talk about your newest book.
Anything you feel like talking about because I got to say whatever comes out of your mouth and like wisdom.
So thank you for being here.
What a gift as a V neck.
She said whatever comes out of my mouth when I just wanted to see if she really meant it or if she was just putting you all on guys Russian.
I have to,
I have to,
they have to say no,
I hear words like that from julie and they're very kind and very generous,
generous,
maybe even generous to a fault.
Could I just begin please my friends by telling me that I'm not a luminary.
By any definition,
don't I wish I was.
But I'm an ordinary person who simply had an extraordinary experience.
And I was given the opportunity to pass that experience along to others.
And I did take that opportunity.
Fair enough.
But that's my only achievement really in this life.
If somebody were to ask me what my goal is for the rest of my life,
it would be to actually live full out the massachusetts I've been invited to share.
So please don't consider me a luminary.
But if you want to call me,
you know,
and unyielding messenger,
I'll accept that title.
That's what I am,
mm.
And I'm healed Messenger.
But at least I know at least I know now for the first time in my life where I'm going And why and I didn't know that for the 1st 50 years of my life.
So at least I have that I can fall back on.
And that's the truth of me.
So pretend the tree uh,
introduced me by saying,
here's a man who's failed at just about everything,
relationships,
career,
even keeping his health in decent shape.
He's failed at just about everything.
But at least now he knows why and now he's moving forward with his life and doing the best he can.
If that were the introduction,
I would say,
thank you and here I am.
How can I serve you Well,
we could do it.
We could do a takeover.
However over you.
Hear what I just had to say because I want them to know,
I want everyone who's listening and watching Now.
You know that it's totally okay to be right where you are.
You don't have to be at some elevated place.
It's okay if you are,
Gosh knows,
but it's not required and God is not looking down on,
you know,
making a list and checking it twice and going to find out who's naughty and nice.
That's not the god of this university.
Yeah,
That's the message I want her everyone to hear.
Yeah.
And then they can see it in mean for sure,
really,
really beautiful what you just said.
Obviously it can feel the authenticity.
And one of the things you said that I think is really was just powerful was you said that you didn't know where you were going,
but now you do.
And I was thinking maybe we could start out just by where are you going?
What is,
what does that mean to you?
Thank you for asking truly.
I'm I'm going to a place where I feel that I'm serving my soul's agenda.
You see,
I didn't know that my soul had an agenda.
I knew all about the soul in loose terms,
you know,
as a child,
I heard about it from my upbringing in a parochial school,
and of course,
you hear about it all over the internet and all over in books.
You read the Soul of this,
the Soul that but I didn't really understand,
you know,
that the soul had an agenda,
that the soul was actually an aspect of my being,
the most powerful,
the most important aspect of my being.
And so where I'm going now is to place where I can feel that I am now actually serving my soul's agenda,
but I'm no longer wandering about the planet,
trying to figure out how to get through life or what my goals and objectives should be julie As a child.
I and as a young man in my late 18,
17,
18,
19,
in those early years of my life,
I was kind of taught not specifically by my parents,
but by my culture,
but my civilization.
I was told Neo,
here are the here,
here are the rules of the rules of the road,
here's your agenda.
Get the car,
get the girl,
by the way,
you have to have the car in order to get the girls know Cardinal girl in that order,
but you get the car and get the girl,
get the job.
Ultimately get the house,
get to get the spouse,
get the Children,
get the better job,
get the better car,
get the better house,
get the better spouse,
get the better spouse,
get the better spouse.
And then if you're lucky,
you get the office in the corner with your name on the door,
Maybe even get the building on the corner with your name on the building and finally get the retirement watch and get the gray hair and get the cruise tickets and get the sickness and then get out.
It was basically the formula,
I was seeing everybody in my life living and I thought,
okay,
that's what I need to do,
Get the car and get the girl,
get the job,
etc,
etc.
And then I can maybe have a halfway decent life.
It's only when I got to be 50 years old,
I'm talking about half a century on the planet chili.
Yeah,
I had even the slightest inkling,
oh,
what I'm really doing here,
Who really am and why I came to,
if you please the realm of the physical,
what's this really all about?
It never even occurred to me and no one was teaching me,
no one was telling me there were no college courses on this topic.
And when I was being taught by the world's religions with respect,
because there's great wisdom in the world's religious.
I'm not here to religion bash,
but what I was taught by the world's religions I've since learned was simply not inaccurate.
Much of it,
as I said,
contained great wisdom,
but Julia was incomplete.
Yeah.
And so I didn't have the whole picture.
So I was moving through life to give you an analogy to use a metaphor,
like a child who had learned to add and subtract.
But it thinks that's not the risk of mathematics.
I can have a subtract.
I'm in fourth grade and I'm really good at addition and subtraction.
And,
and then you wake up one day and realize that's not all there is to mathematics.
There's an algebra and geometry and calculus and higher math and algorithms and all sorts of aspects of mathematics we didn't even knew existed,
much less really using in our daily life.
And that's kind of a metaphor because that's how it feels to me that we have experience the sickening life that we call God.
Or if you please allow brahman young wage,
although whatever word we use to refer to that inevitable essence that we call the divine.
So,
you know,
we don't know the half of it.
It seems to me.
And that's why I began looking seriously at the question.
Is it possible just possible that there's something we don't understand here fully above God.
Yeah.
About life and about ourselves.
The understanding of which would change everything.
And that's what led me to have life come to call.
My conversations was gone.
Mm I feel like so I'm going to,
this always happens a flood of questions and I know I want to come back to your book now.
Would it be okay though to ask you a question about just how that came to be The conversations with God.
You know,
I always was wondering,
I know you've talked about in the book,
you were in the middle of the night and there was a legal pad.
Actually pictured it as a a legal pad.
You got the pencil and like this must have been a couple years ago.
And did did you did you you know,
we've talked a lot about intuition or that sense of connection.
Did it come?
Was it audience?
Was it did you feel an energy like was it I'm just curious how that rushed in that information for you.
Let me let me explain to you why it rushed in.
First of all,
I woke up one morning about 26 27 years ago In the middle of the night.
It was 4:23 AM and I was just flushed with anger,
breathing.
I just woke up angry because I must have been having not such a pleasant dream.
But I know I woke up in the middle of the night thinking I don't understand why is my life the way it is,
what does it take to make life work and what have I done to deserve a life of such continuing struggle.
And so I tried to go back to sleep but I was unsuccessful.
So I thought oh the heck with it.
I threw back the covers and went out to the little to the couch in the little apartment that he wasn't an apartment to look at little cottage in the back of someone's house,
cover in law or grandmother's cottage that this rich couple had in the back on the back of their property.
And I was renting it for very little money,
relatively speaking.
I'm sitting there on the couch and there was a yellow legal pad.
It happened to be on the coffee table.
Uh,
and I picked it up.
There was a pen there and I started writing an angry letter to God.
I just thought and I wrote those same questions,
Do God,
what does it take to make life work?
And you know,
somebody tell me the rules,
I'll play,
I promise I'll play,
Give me the damn rulebook.
And after you give me the rules,
don't change them because it sounds like the rules of life were changing every time I turn around and I was furious,
I was really angry.
And that's when I really felt the presence.
I heard a voice over my right shoulder.
Or at least I thought I do.
Of course I turned around,
there was nobody there but the voice said neon.
Do you really want answers to all of these questions?
Or are you just venting?
Remember I turned around and she's all great.
Not only am I furious,
but I'm going crazy.
There's nobody there.
You know,
What am I thinking?
I remember thinking to myself,
I am venting.
You bet I am inventing,
you know.
And if you got answers,
I sure would like to know what they are.
And then that sense that presence moved on to see into my head,
into my mind.
And I began hearing inside my mind like like if you're listening to the sound of your own thoughts,
do you ever just observe yourself thinking?
Sometimes you can actually almost hear your thoughts with an unspoken voice and what I call a voice is voice nevertheless you nevertheless here,
that's not.
So I started human thoughts.
Okay,
if you want answers to ask away,
I started writing down on my yellow legal pad,
the questions that I had and no sooner did I even start the sentence that the answer would come to me like a download.
Just I started writing when I was I want to say hearing in my mind and I began writing and writing.
And I even at one point this is a true story.
I actually had to say,
well,
slow down so I'm not so fast.
I can't write that fast.
And actually the thoughts came to me more slowly,
wow,
what's this?
Such a voice began to pick up the speed of my ability to hand write the answer.
And I was writing it.
It was like taking dictation very much like taking dictation.
But when I would receive the answer to any question I had I would have lots of what I would call.
Yeah.
But yeah but what about this?
Yeah but what about that?
No no no wait a minute.
That can't be true.
So I kept on writing my answers and my Yeah buts and which which produce additional questions and I would get additional answers Until what I was experiencing for hours on end was question answered,
question answering question answer.
This went on for six or eight hours,
fortunately the next day what happened to be a saturday and I wasn't working.
So I allowed myself to just have the experience as I recall to the 1930 or 10 o'clock in the morning.
Mind you this started around 4 23 in the morning.
So I was still doing this and I was but I was starting to run out of energy my hand,
just like when you write a very long letter,
started getting writer's cramp.
It was always knew I wasn't using the computer as you pointed out.
This is quite a while ago and I didn't have a laptop computer in my home and I was just writing this all out by hand,
but I found it fascinating.
So I let it go at that.
I got on with my day.
But the next morning at 4 23 in the morning or so,
I woke up again and had this urge and get back to the yellow yellow legal pad,
get back to the process.
So I did.
I went back out and there was my legal pad on the coffee table almost filled.
Uh and I had to run out to the drugstore.
I remember that day and get a few more yellow legal pads.
And I did.
I bought for your full of them.
Before I finished,
I wound up with like 15 or 18 yellow legal pads full of handwritten notes,
back and forth,
question answer,
question answer,
the question answer.
And,
and I began to feel even at the beginning when I first wrote the very first response that I was receiving to answer your question about how it felt.
It's not careful.
I could feel the tears brimming at the bridge of my eyes.
I wasn't outright crying out loud,
but just very cheerful.
The kinds of tears,
the kind of tears that we experienced when we're full of joy.
Joyful is happening and we don't know why,
but were just filled with tears of joy.
That's how it felt.
So I kept kept up with the experience.
And then at one point julie about two thirds of the way through that the very early going,
I saw myself writing this will one day become a book and it will be accessed by many people.
And I remember when I thought in that moment,
I thought now I've got you know,
I got you because everything else that I've been receiving was conceptual in nature.
It could be could not be,
who could tell,
We would know right,
but here was a statement of fact that could be measured.
It has a measurable outcome.
This will one day become a book.
And I thought of course,
there's no way in the world,
no way in the world that any publisher on the planet is going to publish a book by a guy who sent in handwritten notes.
I could just imagine him.
I can imagine the publisher going up to the two staff saying,
hold the presses,
hold the presses.
We got a guy here who is talking to God,
It's not going to happen of course.
And I knew it wasn't one chance of anyone who is a man of the world.
I wasn't born yesterday.
I was almost 50 years old.
I thought this is not going to happen.
So I thought I'm just going to send them in.
I'm gonna send him these handwritten notes to publisher.
And then I thought maybe I'd better not do that.
What if they get lost to us?
I did.
I did in fact find a stenographer,
a friend of mine,
a friend of a friend who was a court stenographer.
And I said,
would you be willing to just,
I don't have much,
much much money to pay you,
but I can give you a little bit.
She said,
okay,
I'll be happy to.
And she typed up the notes and she came to my little cottage about a week later and said,
what is this stuff?
Where is this coming from?
This is unbelievable.
I really she's the first person I showed it to,
jesus.
I can't believe what I'm typing here.
I said,
well,
interesting.
So I sent it to the publisher who called me in about two days instead,
we're going to publish this book.
We don't want to we wish you wouldn't call it conversations we've got because it's going to be a pushback.
No one's gonna people are going to be pushed away from it.
No one's gonna want to read a book with that title.
But if you can give it a new title.
And I said no,
you know,
I can't honestly I can't,
I experienced it.
It's a conversation with God,
I'm not going to call it something else.
That's what it is called fat or don't publish it.
And they said,
well,
okay,
and they published it by that title?
Never Right.
Not many people really were not interested.
It only still over a million copies.
I'm not being translated into 37 languages,
not bragging just noticing.
It's just yeah,
hold on,
everyone watching.
It's going up here.
Here we go now.
It's on the bookshelf conversations with God.
Yeah,
that's an amazing,
amazing story.
I actually have tears in my eyes as you're speaking,
just tuning into that,
you know,
it's easy to hear it now.
I'm just thinking of who where you were then,
you know,
in this little cottage in the back of the legal public.
It's just to me it really,
it showcases what I think you really also talk about in this,
in this book.
Now,
the Gods solution about,
you know,
this this essence of love um and coming through you and Just how beautiful and that you kept with that title that you kept with it.
I didn't really feel I had a choice.
You should set the stage a little more firmly.
Nothing in my life was working at that point.
I didn't wake up at 4:23 AM,
angry about nothing.
Just to set the stage.
I had just been fired.
Just been released.
Not fired.
Downsized is a better because I wasn't fired for bad performance.
He just downsize because the company was losing money and I was last in first out my seniority.
So the seniority rule got me and I was out the door.
So I had lost my job.
My relationship with my significant other was dissolving.
It had already dissolved at that point,
very in front of my eyes.
And then to add insult to injury.
I'm driving down the road actually going to visit my Children at the home of my then former wife for parent parental visitation.
I'm on the way and some older gentleman,
God bless him,
decides to turn in front of me.
He makes a left turn in front of me.
He misjudged my speed.
I wasn't going fast,
even the police records showed,
because they measure the skid marks was going about 23 miles an hour and he just tootling along,
but he misjudged my speed,
cracked right into the side of my car,
into the right front side.
I mean,
the left front side of my car,
on the driver's side and I broke my neck.
The impact snapped my neck and I'm not talking about a hairline fracture.
I'm talking about a three quarter inch avulsion fracture of the seventh cervical vertebrae posterior early I recall the exact wording of the medical report.
A three quarter inch fracture in your neck is big enough to put a pencil through.
I'm talking about a hairline fracture,
Wow.
And when I got to the hospital,
the Doctor said,
two young men,
you are luckier than,
you know,
because most people who suffer this kind of a break in the neck died because it usually severs the spinal cord or if they don't die,
they usually paralyzed for life.
He said,
you are neither,
it's going to take a while to rehabilitate.
You could be a year or two,
but you've not suffered any severe paralysis and you're still alive,
you know?
And I wish I could have thought why?
Why?
And then I that's that's what put me in that place When I woke up before 4:23 AM and I said Okay what does it take to make life work?
And I have obeyed the rules for most of them.
Right?
Break any really big rules right?
You know what what does it take?
What what don't I understand here.
That was the background that caused me to go to that young illegal path.
And I see now of course that Albert was a blessing.
I wound up living on the sidewalk.
You should know for a year.
That is.
I had no job once I broke my neck I couldn't even get a job I was applying.
I just I just lost my job as I explained.
But I went around looking for any kind of work box boy at the grocery store.
I'll do anything,
I'll sweep up,
I'll clean the bathrooms at the hotel,
give me anything.
Be a janitor night watchman.
Nobody would hire me for the simplest job.
They did it with one guy.
Was honest with me,
he said.
He said,
look,
look,
he said,
mr Walsh,
you're walking insurance claim,
you walking around with the philadelphia collar with a therapeutic color on you,
holding your head up one wrong move.
And we're going to be wanting to paying your insurance bills,
your health insurance for the rest of our for the rest of our lives.
No,
we can't hire somebody who's already crippled.
We can't we can't have you working here.
I couldn't find work anywhere.
I wound up losing even that little grandma apartment that was not no longer living there,
you know?
And I wound up living on the sidewalk,
living on the street.
I had nowhere to go.
My former wife did,
God bless her,
let me have the sleeping bag of the tent that we had as our camping equipment.
She's okay,
take it.
And I got I had a tent and a sleeping bag that was it.
And and that is all I had and two pair of slacks,
a couple of shirts,
one pair of shoes,
the extent of my worldly possessions.
And I lived in that tent on a little piece of land and I walked the streets.
This is not for a tough week or a tough month or even,
you know,
tough winter.
This went on for a year of my life.
A year of my life,
wow.
And I would get up in the morning was nothing,
not even 25 cents to my name,
because whatever I did collect that day on the street was already gone.
So it hit the pavement again,
going from person to person with my hand out.
Could she help a person in need?
Would you be willing to just give anything anything?
You know?
Some people would say all I had was a couple of coins.
They said,
you know,
honest to God,
a couple of quarters like get a couple of quarters from everybody I think eat today.
Please let me have those couple of quarters.
And I learned about pride and the loss of it in the beginning of it and the beginning of strength and courage to even ask for help.
I learned about all of that and I learned about how it was to get up in the middle of the night and not no.
Are you going to eat the next year and wait for the police to come along and tell you to move the tension and don't don't think you're going to camp out here because you can't it wasn't that way for a year.
That's when I started asking her.
All right.
All right.
Obviously,
there's something I don't understand.
Yeah,
What is it?
But I don't understand.
That's really what created what I came to call my conversations with God who would have sought.
I did send it to a publisher and they did printed and who in a million years would have ever imagined I am that it would wind up being run by people all over the world in 37 different languages and by some young woman in the Washington D.
C.
Area calling me on the phone and and asking me questions about today,
would it sound?
But that's my story and I'm sticking to it,
wow.
I just that is a low that,
you know,
I'm thinking,
gosh,
I've had lows.
I thank goodness.
I mean,
I I haven't experienced that,
but I could I can't even imagine.
I remember you talking about your background and then you had struggled.
I didn't realize my gosh to go a whole year on the street.
I mean,
of course,
I'm thinking using the restroom like cleanliness.
My dear Julia.
You can't even imagine I'd go into restaurants,
right?
And the manager will meet me at the door.
He'd seen you coming in if he was somewhere near the front entrance and they would say no,
no,
no,
don't.
Because because of course he looked terribly unkempt.
I didn't smell all that good.
My hair.
I hadn't had a haircut in weeks and I looked like an unsavory character.
He said,
no,
no.
I said,
please,
I just need to use the restroom.
Just need to use the bathroom.
I'll be in and out.
We can just just,
no,
we can't.
I remember one time the owner of the place,
a lady must have owned it.
She came up behind him.
I remember distinctly and she just said over heaven's sake jim,
let him in.
And she looked at me,
she said in and out,
promise.
I said promise in and out just to find a place to leave yourself wow,
forget about eating and but to go into a restaurant like that and smell all the food,
smell all these savory steaks on people's place and such and then and then walk up and hit the street again to see if you can collect a dollar 15 and maybe buy a bag of french fries before the day.
Was wow,
interesting way to live.
They made a movie of it of course Hollywood came along.
Years later the man who the producer who produced Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and many other films.
They asked me if they could make a movie of my life and they put most of this on film in the movie called conversations with God.
Hello,
my beautiful soul,
Family,
Soul Brothers and sisters.
This is julie.
I'm just interrupting this wonderful conversation for a moment just to let you know that if you have had that inkling or little inner baby calling to do more,
to bring more light to this planet,
to learn how to be a world class coach to help others transform their life while also having some pretty cool transformations yourself.
I wanted to invite you to check out my life designer coaching certification program in my coaching academy and I do have a whole bunch of open houses to see if this might be a program for you.
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Um,
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There's also a place to apply.
This feels like it resonates and of course feel free to share with anyone.
You think this might benefit.
All right,
we're going to go back to the show and I'm sending so much love.
I'm just thinking,
you know,
what might might have been going through your head to anger.
I don't know,
maybe worthiness.
And you know how you felt it thought about yourself and then it's almost you know what,
I'm curious this book because I've I've listened and read it,
you know,
many times.
It's funny when you can ask those questions and like,
I think I'm in his head like I would have asked that question to you.
I'm really so grateful.
Like,
so it usually way more articulate,
but did you It almost feels like that book that it was it part of the healing agent for you.
So take us from to be there.
Yeah,
wow,
I'm sorry.
I interrupted the flow.
Go ahead and finish your thought.
Well now just from that I'm like the gap from,
I can't even imagine thinking you walking in this restaurant smelling food just needing to use the bathroom,
like hoping you're going to eat,
hoping of a place to sleep,
probably anxious.
I can't even imagine you're body and how you felt and then to the place where now it's being published and you know how life has just turned around and I know you talked a bit about,
you know,
you just didn't understand it.
Like where's the cliff notes that like give me the guy like what did I miss here?
Like why don't I know calculus like I thought I thought they're adding and subtracting was enough and how maybe just if it's okay to share a little bit about that that that turning the boat around,
how did that happen?
What was that like That?
What had happened was simply they published a book and within about,
I think within 2.5 months,
something like 14 weeks as I recall the book was on the new york times best seller list.
Much to the surprise of because the publisher was not a major publisher.
We're not talking about Random House or one of the big publishers,
little relatively small publisher.
Well,
the independent books on the east coast called Hampton Roads.
But the book wanted making the new york Times best seller list.
And then one of the major publishers swooped in and and asked this smaller publisher they wanted to buy the book from them.
They saw that the book was doing very well on the on the list.
And so they offered the small publisher of substantial amount of money that's all in the movie.
By the way,
They offered him actually $1 million dollars from the book now and this is in the film.
And he rejected it.
He said no,
I don't think we can make a million on our own.
And they publisher in new york said,
okay,
it was partner,
the partner publishing people.
And put them said,
okay,
a million and a half.
But that's our final offer.
And I looked at the I was there with the publisher and I thought he's not going to turn this down.
And he didn't.
He said,
okay,
all right,
fair enough.
You got it,
it's yours.
And put them bought the book for him later and a half part of which of course I received mm a substantial part of it.
So I went literally overnight from a person who had I was under a roof.
At that point,
I don't want to pretend that was still outside.
I was under a roof at that point,
but I was,
I had nothing to speak of.
It's literally rags to riches and that's also demonstrated in the movie.
And so all of a sudden I realized the next morning that I had more money than I could ever imagine having in your lifetime and I could spend it as I chose.
And I didn't go on a spending bender and didn't go out and buy all kinds of fancy stuff.
I didn't even know how to do that.
I didn't have the,
didn't have the point of view about life to go ahead and do that.
But I didn't find myself a nice apartment that I could rift and bought a few clothes and like that.
Yeah.
I realized when I got my first one to check,
I'm telling you really private stuff.
I don't normally share this.
But you asked a private question.
I remember when I got my first wanted to check and I opened it up.
I remember this vividly $90,000 mm as a royal teacher and I thought the car,
what's happened here?
Right?
What happened here?
This is outside of my ability to even comprehend.
Yeah.
And so I I saw my life changed dramatically.
I didn't go on a bender because I did,
I did go out and buy a new car.
Fair enough.
Got myself like the first new car ever bought in my life?
50 years old.
I never bought a new car in my life.
I purchased used cars.
Second hand cars.
But I was the first time I ever bought a brand new car.
I did up on a new car right off the lot.
But that was,
that was the biggest thing I wanted everything else.
It was not like cadillac or Lincoln.
It was just the second was a Buick.
No,
I don't know.
It was an Oldsmobile.
I remember that now because I remember thinking my father used to driving Oldsmobile.
Does anybody driving Oldsmobile today?
I mean,
you see how old I am.
But anyway,
that's what I bought and that was the biggest purchase I made and I just moved through my life.
But I can tell you one thing.
Surely I can tell you one thing.
I never,
never pass the person in the street.
Well,
I could see needed some help.
Mhm.
Somebody leaning up against the wall of the building.
Leave us alone,
bottle of something in a brown paper bag,
taking a sip.
This is all they could do.
It's the best he could do with this.
Mine is just dull.
It it was a little basket out in front of him.
The little cardboard sinus says anything else.
I never,
ever,
ever,
ever from that day to this passed a person in need without sleeping a little something their way.
And I make sure.
And I tell everyone I talked to him sure.
One of my audiences,
all the lectures I've done and I've lectured all over the world and most of the major capitals on the planet.
I've lectured and told my choices in all those languages.
Always keep her little spare.
Have it in the dashboard of your car,
have it on the tree next to the extra.
Have some in your pocket when you're walking down the street,
just a little spare.
A couple of $5 bills or even a ticket.
And as you're walking down the street,
let it be your vote,
Your voice of gratitude.
Thank you God mm along.
You could never know how much that can mean to a person who could live for three days Off of that $10 mm and find a way to stay alive.
But more important people.
Yeah.
We knew their faith in the human race,
life itself.
Well,
it's beautiful.
That's really I remembered your straight just you were talked about the couple,
the younger couple that you took in and gave them whatever was in your fridge and you give them some hot chocolate and you're like,
I remember that story.
I remember you talking about it and thinking,
you know that it really it just I didn't realize the background that you'd come from,
You know,
and I thought that's so lovely that you did that.
And I think today I just love what you said about restoring faith in humanity.
And I know this is something you get into this in your in your most recent book.
Um and I have to tell you,
it's just really quickly,
I was with my son yesterday,
we were out actually in Bethesda,
you know the area and in the D.
C.
Area there was a man there and people just walked by him.
He was sitting with his cardboard box and his,
you know,
um it makes me cry.
It is bullet really like it brings tears to my eyes because I could see it,
you know,
the light in his eyes.
And I had,
you know,
I gave him some change.
We I mean it wasn't a lot,
but we went to the supermarket to return something and just I was like,
I don't know the whole thing of berries and my son was like,
he might be allergic.
He's going to have a very cute actually.
Like he could have a reaction.
So I thought,
okay,
it's not a lot.
But at least like I got a huge bag of oranges because they're easy to peel and they're vitamins.
It was like thinking what's nutritional?
I don't know if he's,
I probably could have gotten more,
could have been a sandwich,
but I figured,
well that I know at least is something healthy.
And he was I mean,
it was nothing to do that.
He was so grateful.
And you know,
as I was finishing the book,
I don't want to give it all away.
But you know,
you you talk about this in your last chapter,
this this being having that gratitude factor.
And I just I'm really touched by what you shared.
I didn't know your,
I didn't I haven't heard you said it like that.
And I saw it yesterday.
You know,
and I think there's this restoring hope in humanity and I can't think of a more important topic right now is restoring hope in this species.
And you know,
just to dive into this book.
I I was like,
everyone needs to read the gods solution.
Everyone needs to read this.
I was like,
I would be part of the religion you're creating or whatever you wanna call it.
Um,
so I just thank you for sharing that and who you are honestly julie to those who are watching us now that this is way more than simply doing nice things.
This is more than your good good deed for the day.
I don't want people to think that it's that simplistic.
It's a wonderful thing to do.
I'm not denigrating it are making it small,
please.
If you can think of a good DVD every day,
do it.
But this,
this goes way beyond that.
Yeah.
This goes to a place of actually changing your mind by changing your whole definition of who and what God is of what God wants and how that new idea flows through you in a particular way,
at a particular time for a particular reason.
Because it's our fundamental idea about God,
the idea that we hold in front of ourselves who has got anyway,
is there even a God?
And if there is a god?
Because the book starts by the way,
with that question,
folks,
the book begins with an interesting question,
Hey,
you know what?
If there is a God,
you can't even be sure there is,
but if there is a God,
why is the world such a mess?
Excuse me.
But what's the point of having a God if the world's continually facing the danger of its own self annihilation or falling apart?
For one other reason,
one reason or another from the beginning from the beginning of human history,
and increasingly,
as each day goes by,
as we increase in our so called ability to solve problems,
we have even larger ones and larger ones in larger ones.
So excuse me,
What's the point of having a higher power?
If we are powerless to do anything about the way life is being experienced on earth?
That's how the book begins.
Was a very pointed and direct question.
And then the book says,
you know what,
as you consider the principle of that?
The problem is not that there is not such a thing as a higher power,
but it's something we haven't learned how to use it.
The shipping can't even agree and who and what God is.
And the book points out that there are 4300 religions on the face of the years.
Right now,
I didn't make that number of Google it.
Just google the question how many religions are there on earth?
It'll tell you just under 4300 religions on the face of the earth today.
But with all those relations on the face of the earth,
we can't seem to agree.
We can come to a unified statement about who and what God is,
what God wants,
what God demands and requires.
What happens if we don't meet God's demands and how can we use this so called higher power in some way that allows us to produce the outcomes that we say we wish to produce.
And the challenge that I say,
that place,
I should say,
before humanity is the challenge of creating a brand new definition.
Because truly,
it's been my observation.
It's been my observation.
That's the way we define God.
The way we think of God is how we behave that,
as we think of God as a judgmental condemning and punishing deity.
God does judge us.
God will condemn us.
God will punish us if you don't do what God wants.
Virtually every one of the major religions on the face of the earth teach those three principles.
Again,
I'm not making that up either.
That's this theology.
And because we observe and have been taught that a guy judges condemns and punishes,
we decide it's okay for us to judge,
condemn and punish others.
That stands to reason everywhere,
to change our entire theology,
our entire idea of who and what God is,
how God functions,
how the DT moves through the experience,
we call life,
that we would move through life in a different way as well.
What if we decided Dare I suggested that God could be defined in two words?
Pure wow.
Now,
when I put that in front of audiences on the internet these days,
I do a lot of lecturing on the internet and people will say,
you know,
they raise their hand,
you know,
on the zoom platform and they'll say O NEal,
come on.
Is that it?
I mean that's the brand new revelation from the guy who talked to God,
God is his love.
Of course God is love.
Everyone agrees that God has loved.
No one would disagree with that.
Yeah,
that's what that's what I said,
wait,
I said wait,
wait,
wait,
relax guys,
I didn't say God is love.
You didn't hear me say God is love.
I said God is pure love.
Mm It's the difference.
Yeah.
Pure Love once needs expects hopes for and commands nothing in return for the expressing of it.
That's pure love.
Can do we dare believe in a God who needs nothing,
who wants nothing,
Who demands nothing?
And therefore can I sing it out loud?
Yeah,
this is nothing.
Condemns nothing and then judges nothing.
Do we dare believe in that kind of God?
Well,
of course it would be hard for us to do that because if we embraced such a notion,
we would have to behave that way ourselves.
Yeah.
Because if we want to model our behavior on the highest demonstration of what is good and right and true there is in the universe.
If we want to model our behavior on the behavior of God,
we would have to ourselves never again judge condemn or punish anybody wow with that alter human behavior.
Would that bring a change in our politics,
in our economics,
in our social constructions to say nothing of our spirituality,
I'm sorry,
but it would be revolutionary.
That is it would change everything.
And that's what I call the gods solution.
Mm To decide that you are pure love that you are an individual ation of divinity.
I'm not saying you're God.
Somebody accused me the other day On my facebook page,
he's walking around saying that I am God.
I didn't say that you are a god,
not in the totality of God.
I'm saying that you are an individual ation Yeah.
Of the divine that you are to God as as a wave is to the ocean.
When the wave arises from the ocean,
it's not separate from the ocean.
It's not other than the ocean.
It's simply the ocean arising in individuated form in all its glory and on its power.
Duplicating the glory and power of the ocean itself in singular and proportionate form,
and when that expression is complete,
it receives back into the ocean.
That is precisely the relationship that we have with the divine in my understanding.
That's what I was told in my conversations,
was gone.
Now,
if humanity simply embraced that notion that understanding and simply changed its idea of the God that we received back into of who and what is God?
Is it really a being that's angry?
You know,
what's interesting?
Read the bible with a with a calculator,
You don't probably don't want to do it.
But just just just for this,
for the sake of the experiment,
pick up a hand calculator and put it next to your bible and read the bible with a calculator and add up every time.
It's a statement in the bible about how God eater himself or others at his direction,
killed or hurt people and you'll discover that over a million people have been killed at the hand was a command of body of God in the bible,
Yeah,
as recorded in sacred scripture,
see because here's how it is.
I don't know how it how it was for you folks,
but I was born and raised,
I was in the catholic tradition,
I'm not going to catholic bash as I said earlier.
I don't want to get into that,
but I want to share with you an anecdote when I was nine years old.
I was told by the priest in catechism class.
If you miss Mass,
if you miss mass and sunday,
then don't have a good excuse if you're caring for a sick mother or if you're an adult and you have to go to work fair enough.
But if you just go out to play a game of golf or if you're a nine year old child and you want to just go play a little softball on sunday morning at the playground.
And as you should get hit by a car the next day and unfortunately die in the accident,
you're not going to have them,
You will not return to God in him.
You may not go to hell.
Hell is for the really severe offenders.
You'll go to a place called purgatory purgatory where you have to suffer the same as how long.
It's not forever.
I've had a couple of marriages like that,
but that's another old story.
So here you are in purgatory and you have to burn off your sins until you can and is suffering abject suffering until you can be purified and then you can return,
then you can return to God in heaven because you missed mass on sunday.
But the teaching of that particular church is even worse than that.
Mm I was told that if I belong to the right of religion,
it doesn't matter how nice to you.
What kind are you?
I have compassionate,
I am,
how caring I am,
how generous I am,
how forgiving I am,
how loving I am.
None of that matters.
I could be one of the nicest people in the face of the earth.
But you know what?
Yeah,
I chose the wrong religion and God says,
sorry,
you're going to help where you'll suffer everlasting torture.
Them's the rules.
All right,
You got to belong to this church or you're out if you're a buddhist sure a muslim,
if you're a jew,
if you belong to my religion whatsoever,
if you happen to be,
what can I tell you?
You're out?
Because there's only one way to get in,
and that's just how it is,
and that's the God in whom we believed.
No wonder we play again on this planet.
You got to belong to our nationality or you're out,
build the fences,
build the walls.
You can't come in unless you're one of us.
What did we get that idea?
No,
no,
you can't come in unless you're one of us.
And they wonder why the world is the way it is.
Come on,
people,
come on.
I mean,
really,
this is the God in who we believe,
or is it time for a new understanding?
I'm suggesting that the world is begging for a new understanding of life and how it works of God and who and what it is of ourselves and who we are and what is our true identity,
A new understanding of everything.
Time to throw out the old understandings.
Because,
you know,
it's fascinating.
We've been living with these old understandings about God for thousands of years.
I mean,
we've been taught this for thousands of years and we're still seeking and struggling striving and suffering.
Do you know that 653 Children on this planet die of starvation every day?
Not every day.
I meant I meant to say every hour.
Yeah,
mm I made that mistake deliberately because I wanted to catch you.
I actually know the statistics.
It's every our 153 Children die on this planet of starvation while we throw away more food in the restaurants of paris London and new york than would be needed to feed an entire village for a week.
Yeah.
And we call ourselves an advanced civilization me out.
But there's something we can do about it.
I don't want you to be one of those who says,
well Neil,
you know,
you're raising very good points that we hear you,
but what can I do?
What you can do is move through the world in a way which demonstrates who and what you are with everything you think say and do and which therefore shows others who they are as well.
So raise not your fist,
you haven't been curse the darkness,
not but pure light unto the darkness just as much.
Oh,
it's very powerful what you're saying.
And one of the thoughts that comes to mind,
I mean,
this is a lot.
I'm just thinking for everyone.
I will have notes because there's so much in what you're saying,
it's really about being this.
Um the other piece and you talk about this in the book is understanding this concept of God,
this deity.
We're putting human terms on it.
And I think you get into that mistaken mistake thinking that making God in the image of humans I think is the way you said it and it's a fallacy.
That's where we,
you know,
this judgmental,
harsh,
condemning entity.
It's like,
how could that even be?
Um and it kind of,
it just reminds me of back to the beginning,
this pure love this.
I'm gonna write that somewhere where I can see this,
the wanting,
needing,
expecting,
commanding nothing in return.
Just for the expressing of it.
Like that is that's something to really sit with the meditate over for a long time.
That's pretty.
And you even,
can you even love your own spouse in that way?
Forget about the world,
you even love the person across the pillow.
Yeah.
In that way,
needing,
wanting,
expecting,
hoping for and demanding nothing in return.
Terry,
I dairy yeah.
Just do it.
You know,
for a day,
even for an hour,
it'll change your life.
Be careful this stuff can change your life.
Never walk through the world in the same way again.
Yeah.
Do I practice this all the time?
24 hours a day,
seven days a week now I'm not gonna sit here and try to pretend that I do because I don't and it's a high mark,
high standard to meet at least now I know where I'm going.
At least now I know why I came to this planet,
but my purpose is here because I finally know who I am and what I'm doing here.
It took me a half century on the planet to even come to that awareness and billions of people are not in that place from my observation nor resign for a half century.
I thought it was about get the card with the girl,
gets a job etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Get the house,
gets a better car,
get a better job,
gets a better house.
Doing the best I can here.
I'm doing the best I can.
You give me a break.
Mm And you know what's interesting,
98% of the world's people are spending 98% of their time on things that don't matter mm on things that don't matter that have nothing to do with what you're really doing here.
That's the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first chapter of a book I wrote called The only thing that matters might find it interesting to pick up that piece of literature,
98% of the world's people are spending 98% of their time on things that don't matter.
You're here.
You came here to physicality to complete the agenda of the soul,
not to get the guy,
get the girl,
get the car,
get the job,
get the house,
getting office in the court was your name on the door.
That's not what's going on here yet.
When you serve your souls agenda,
which is the same by the way for every person,
the agenda of the soul is the same for every sentient being in the universe.
To express,
to experience,
to demonstrate and to complete replacing into physicality of your true identity as an individual ation of divinity or in a super word,
to evolve to evolve into the demonstration of that.
Now,
what's interesting is that when you pay attention to that agenda and really serve that agenda to the best of your ability,
all these other things following the new water back,
all these are the things that you think you're trying to accomplish.
Get the guy,
get the girl,
get the car,
get the job,
get the house,
gets a better car,
get a better job,
get the better up.
It all happens automatically or someone much more eloquent than I will ever be.
Once put it see key first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.
I could of course be wrong about all of this lactic.
So taking a breath over here as I just breathe that in and saying to all of the beautiful listeners,
this is one of my one of the more stunning conversations that I've and part ever been able to share and I just thank God you survived that car incident and you're so living your souls agenda.
It's it's oozing out of the N.
L.
And you know I think what you said earlier,
the best way I think to paraphrase is to be it to be this and to to be a model for others and you really you are that for me,
you know that the goal of this whole show is really this idea of you know,
the U.
S.
You tuning into that individuated specific like your your special wave,
I love that whatever that wave is,
the ocean and I'm really behind,
you know,
I always use my body,
I'm just fully aligned with what you're saying.
You know,
I know you talk a lot about this this the power of gratitude and really tuning into that essence.
And I gotta tell you,
I'm just feeling so thankful for who you are,
what you're sharing with the world.
We need it,
we need this hope,
everyone's listening and internalizing.
I hope everyone hears me when I tell you that I'm not in my book that I I do better talking it than I do living in.
But at least at least now,
as I said,
a number of times,
at least now I know what I'm up to and I went through most of my life having no idea who I am and why I'm here,
at least now I'm clear about that,
and that gives me a direction in which I can move.
I hope that on my gravestone it'll be shit.
He almost got there.
Mm.
Yeah,
it's beautiful.
Well,
you're you're definitely like,
if this isn't getting there,
we all maybe we never get there.
Maybe that's part of the maybe it's it's it's aiming aiming high for it.
Well,
I'm talking it pretty good,
and if I when I get off the air here and I have to close down my computer and get back into the regular living of my life,
we'll see how it goes in the kitchen.
Yeah,
these shows up in the kitchen,
doesn't it?
My last question,
if it's okay with you,
I I usually ask,
I call it a heart flare where you're maybe there's something I didn't ask you,
or just a feeling of your heart wanting to share.
Something that it just feels like a little flare that um is coming up to the surface,
and I wanted to give you the space,
grace and time.
If there's anything else,
maybe I forgot to ask,
or just that you felt like sharing for your fair share to people have asked me at lectures,
and when I'm I'm doing a book signing or whatever they've asked me,
can you give me a tool?
Just a simple tool.
Just take away from this encounter that could allow me to step off onto this path you're describing.
So here's the tools that I would suggest I use it myself and it helps me every day before I see another person for the first time that day.
Maybe it is when I opened my papers and I see my beloved on the next pillow across the bed.
Or maybe it's just a family member across the house.
Perhaps it's a friend,
a neighbor across the street or a total stranger across town or a person I never even heard of but just had discovered across the world,
whoever it might be.
Before I begin my encounter with that person on that day,
I say to myself,
I don't say it out loud by the way,
don't say this out loud because you're most likely to be misunderstood.
Mm Let's say it to yourself.
Just a little comment from you to you.
Before you begin your first interaction with that other human being.
Here's what I say to myself.
I have come that you may have life and that you may have it more abundantly.
Your life will be made better today from my having passed through it.
I promise you,
wow,
Can you say that one more time,
please?
Yeah,
I love what you just said and like I want to I'm going to write that we're going to hear.
You gotta have a little fun.
You are so great.
I was like I did just say that okay,
here's here's what I say to myself.
Even before I say the first word or have the first interaction.
But the person on the other side of the bed,
much less the first on the other side of the world I have come that you may have life and that you may have it more abundantly.
Your day will be made better today from having passed through it.
I promise you,
That is stunning.
And I just if we all said that Can't even imagine for 90 days.
Be careful Because if you do that for 90 days without sale before your first interaction with anybody,
the clerk at the post office,
the lady at the coffee shop,
much less the person across the kitchen.
If you do that for 90 days,
somebody is going to look at you and they're going to see their version of By whose authority are you acting like this and you well then get to decide,
Who are you Really?
Why are you here?
Mhm.
It will only be this is the most important decision that remain in your life.
So what do I know?
Take it in and throw it out if it doesn't resonate with you and if it does embrace it and move forward in your life is one of God's blessings.
Mhm.
Thank you so much.
I'm on for the challenge.
Said,
no,
we can talk after like 90 days doing it right here.
All my listeners can do with me Steve together.
Let's do this.
Thank you so much for your You're 39 books in um you know,
what do you know?
All I know is What you're saying is resonating on a deep level and it's truly an honor.
And I hope to have you back again soon for the rest of the 500 questions I have.
We'll come back whenever you ask,
thank you for being such a light and so many of our lives and for what you shared today.
Thanks for the opportunity to share this time.
I forgot my friend,
I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.
I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.
I created this podcast from my own heart's desire to amplify the vibration of compassion,
kindness,
abundance,
part magic and so much more both within you and the collective.
I'm honored to be your host,
your friend and your companion in this life journey.
And I love feedback.
Let me know what you loved.
What would you love more of or what would you love to see covered on the show.
And if you feel moved,
please subscribe,
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Mhm.
Mhm Yeah.

Welcome my friend to the U.S.To podcast.I'm julie Rissler and I am so honored to have you here in this show in community.You'll find huge hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light to learn to trust their heart, wisdom and help raise the consciousness of this planet just like you,

whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow light worker luminary or solo cast about navigating life as an empath, my goal is the same.To help you turn your fear into faith, to remember that you are sacred,

to realign with your highest potential to be fully self expressed as your you ist.You are you ready to join me on this journey? It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.Never forget the chances of being born were one and 14 trillion.

In other words, you are pure positive, divine light born to shine, to live from your heart and to be your fullest usu Hello beloved us, You listeners, my soul family today is a really,

really special day for you, for me and for all those that are tuning in and hope it's many.I am so excited to be here with one of my most favorite authors and luminaries people and just getting to talk to him a little before you're gonna get to meet Neale Donald Walsch, I can tell you he is a man of incredible heart and wisdom and so without further ado,

I want to share with you a little bit about our incredible guests today.So grateful Neale Donald Walsch has written 39 books on contemporary spirituality and its practical application in everyday life, including the nine book conversations with God series.

His titles have been translated into 37 languages.His latest book is the God solution, an amazing book.This was published in December 2020 and it proposes an altered and totally non traditional spiritual approach to ending the seemingly interminable struggles of our species.The gods solution bites humanity to embrace a new global ethic based on a refined and clarify definition of God.

This book proposes that there is a single statement of spiritual truth upon which all the world's religions could agree and which would birth a shift of spiritual paradigms around the globe of such magnitude that it would produce peace and happiness in our planet.At last,

you can find more about Neale Donald Walsch at his website, Neale Donald Walsch dot com.We'll have all of this in the show notes and I just got to share before we bring him on for you to get to meet the amazing Neale Donald Walsch yourself To share that, you know,

that this book conversations with God Part one literally has been with me since I read it about eight years ago and through the pandemic.I read or listen to him almost every single day.And so again,

such an honor without further do.It is such a pleasure to bring you on Neil and to talk about your newest book.Anything you feel like talking about because I got to say whatever comes out of your mouth and like wisdom.So thank you for being here.

What a gift as a V neck.She said whatever comes out of my mouth when I just wanted to see if she really meant it or if she was just putting you all on guys Russian.I have to,

I have to, they have to say no, I hear words like that from julie and they're very kind and very generous, generous, maybe even generous to a fault.Could I just begin please my friends by telling me that I'm not a luminary.By any definition,

don't I wish I was.But I'm an ordinary person who simply had an extraordinary experience.And I was given the opportunity to pass that experience along to others.And I did take that opportunity.

Fair enough.But that's my only achievement really in this life.If somebody were to ask me what my goal is for the rest of my life, it would be to actually live full out the massachusetts I've been invited to share.So please don't consider me a luminary.

But if you want to call me, you know, and unyielding messenger, I'll accept that title.That's what I am, mm.And I'm healed Messenger.But at least I know at least I know now for the first time in my life where I'm going And why and I didn't know that for the 1st 50 years of my life.So at least I have that I can fall back on.

And that's the truth of me.So pretend the tree uh, introduced me by saying, here's a man who's failed at just about everything, relationships, career, even keeping his health in decent shape.

He's failed at just about everything.But at least now he knows why and now he's moving forward with his life and doing the best he can.If that were the introduction, I would say,

thank you and here I am.How can I serve you Well, we could do it.We could do a takeover.However over you.Hear what I just had to say because I want them to know, I want everyone who's listening and watching Now.

You know that it's totally okay to be right where you are.You don't have to be at some elevated place.It's okay if you are, Gosh knows, but it's not required and God is not looking down on, you know,

making a list and checking it twice and going to find out who's naughty and nice.That's not the god of this university.Yeah, That's the message I want her everyone to hear.Yeah.

And then they can see it in mean for sure, really, really beautiful what you just said.Obviously it can feel the authenticity.And one of the things you said that I think is really was just powerful was you said that you didn't know where you were going, but now you do.

And I was thinking maybe we could start out just by where are you going? What is, what does that mean to you? Thank you for asking truly.I'm I'm going to a place where I feel that I'm serving my soul's agenda.You see,

I didn't know that my soul had an agenda.I knew all about the soul in loose terms, you know, as a child, I heard about it from my upbringing in a parochial school, and of course,

you hear about it all over the internet and all over in books.You read the Soul of this, the Soul that but I didn't really understand, you know, that the soul had an agenda, that the soul was actually an aspect of my being,

the most powerful, the most important aspect of my being.And so where I'm going now is to place where I can feel that I am now actually serving my soul's agenda, but I'm no longer wandering about the planet,

trying to figure out how to get through life or what my goals and objectives should be julie As a child.I and as a young man in my late 18, 17, 18, 19, in those early years of my life,

I was kind of taught not specifically by my parents, but by my culture, but my civilization.I was told Neo, here are the here, here are the rules of the rules of the road, here's your agenda.

Get the car, get the girl, by the way, you have to have the car in order to get the girls know Cardinal girl in that order, but you get the car and get the girl, get the job.

Ultimately get the house, get to get the spouse, get the Children, get the better job, get the better car, get the better house, get the better spouse, get the better spouse,

get the better spouse.And then if you're lucky, you get the office in the corner with your name on the door, Maybe even get the building on the corner with your name on the building and finally get the retirement watch and get the gray hair and get the cruise tickets and get the sickness and then get out.It was basically the formula,

I was seeing everybody in my life living and I thought, okay, that's what I need to do, Get the car and get the girl, get the job, etc, etc.And then I can maybe have a halfway decent life.It's only when I got to be 50 years old,

I'm talking about half a century on the planet chili.Yeah, I had even the slightest inkling, oh, what I'm really doing here, Who really am and why I came to, if you please the realm of the physical,

what's this really all about? It never even occurred to me and no one was teaching me, no one was telling me there were no college courses on this topic.And when I was being taught by the world's religions with respect,

because there's great wisdom in the world's religious.I'm not here to religion bash, but what I was taught by the world's religions I've since learned was simply not inaccurate.Much of it,

as I said, contained great wisdom, but Julia was incomplete.Yeah.And so I didn't have the whole picture.So I was moving through life to give you an analogy to use a metaphor, like a child who had learned to add and subtract.

But it thinks that's not the risk of mathematics.I can have a subtract.I'm in fourth grade and I'm really good at addition and subtraction.And, and then you wake up one day and realize that's not all there is to mathematics.There's an algebra and geometry and calculus and higher math and algorithms and all sorts of aspects of mathematics we didn't even knew existed,

much less really using in our daily life.And that's kind of a metaphor because that's how it feels to me that we have experience the sickening life that we call God.Or if you please allow brahman young wage,

although whatever word we use to refer to that inevitable essence that we call the divine.So, you know, we don't know the half of it.It seems to me.And that's why I began looking seriously at the question.Is it possible just possible that there's something we don't understand here fully above God.

Yeah.About life and about ourselves.The understanding of which would change everything.And that's what led me to have life come to call.My conversations was gone.Mm I feel like so I'm going to,

this always happens a flood of questions and I know I want to come back to your book now.Would it be okay though to ask you a question about just how that came to be The conversations with God.You know,

I always was wondering, I know you've talked about in the book, you were in the middle of the night and there was a legal pad.Actually pictured it as a a legal pad.You got the pencil and like this must have been a couple years ago.

And did did you did you you know, we've talked a lot about intuition or that sense of connection.Did it come? Was it audience? Was it did you feel an energy like was it I'm just curious how that rushed in that information for you.Let me let me explain to you why it rushed in.

First of all, I woke up one morning about 26 27 years ago In the middle of the night.It was 4:23 AM and I was just flushed with anger, breathing.I just woke up angry because I must have been having not such a pleasant dream.But I know I woke up in the middle of the night thinking I don't understand why is my life the way it is,

what does it take to make life work and what have I done to deserve a life of such continuing struggle.And so I tried to go back to sleep but I was unsuccessful.So I thought oh the heck with it.

I threw back the covers and went out to the little to the couch in the little apartment that he wasn't an apartment to look at little cottage in the back of someone's house, cover in law or grandmother's cottage that this rich couple had in the back on the back of their property.

And I was renting it for very little money, relatively speaking.I'm sitting there on the couch and there was a yellow legal pad.It happened to be on the coffee table.Uh,

and I picked it up.There was a pen there and I started writing an angry letter to God.I just thought and I wrote those same questions, Do God, what does it take to make life work? And you know,

somebody tell me the rules, I'll play, I promise I'll play, Give me the damn rulebook.And after you give me the rules, don't change them because it sounds like the rules of life were changing every time I turn around and I was furious, I was really angry.

And that's when I really felt the presence.I heard a voice over my right shoulder.Or at least I thought I do.Of course I turned around, there was nobody there but the voice said neon.Do you really want answers to all of these questions?

Or are you just venting? Remember I turned around and she's all great.Not only am I furious, but I'm going crazy.There's nobody there.You know, What am I thinking? I remember thinking to myself,

I am venting.You bet I am inventing, you know.And if you got answers, I sure would like to know what they are.And then that sense that presence moved on to see into my head, into my mind.

And I began hearing inside my mind like like if you're listening to the sound of your own thoughts, do you ever just observe yourself thinking? Sometimes you can actually almost hear your thoughts with an unspoken voice and what I call a voice is voice nevertheless you nevertheless here, that's not.

So I started human thoughts.Okay, if you want answers to ask away, I started writing down on my yellow legal pad, the questions that I had and no sooner did I even start the sentence that the answer would come to me like a download.Just I started writing when I was I want to say hearing in my mind and I began writing and writing.

And I even at one point this is a true story.I actually had to say, well, slow down so I'm not so fast.I can't write that fast.And actually the thoughts came to me more slowly, wow,

what's this? Such a voice began to pick up the speed of my ability to hand write the answer.And I was writing it.It was like taking dictation very much like taking dictation.But when I would receive the answer to any question I had I would have lots of what I would call.

Yeah.But yeah but what about this? Yeah but what about that? No no no wait a minute.That can't be true.So I kept on writing my answers and my Yeah buts and which which produce additional questions and I would get additional answers Until what I was experiencing for hours on end was question answered, question answering question answer.

This went on for six or eight hours, fortunately the next day what happened to be a saturday and I wasn't working.So I allowed myself to just have the experience as I recall to the 1930 or 10 o'clock in the morning.Mind you this started around 4 23 in the morning.

So I was still doing this and I was but I was starting to run out of energy my hand, just like when you write a very long letter, started getting writer's cramp.It was always knew I wasn't using the computer as you pointed out.

This is quite a while ago and I didn't have a laptop computer in my home and I was just writing this all out by hand, but I found it fascinating.So I let it go at that.I got on with my day.

But the next morning at 4 23 in the morning or so, I woke up again and had this urge and get back to the yellow yellow legal pad, get back to the process.So I did.

I went back out and there was my legal pad on the coffee table almost filled.Uh and I had to run out to the drugstore.I remember that day and get a few more yellow legal pads.And I did.

I bought for your full of them.Before I finished, I wound up with like 15 or 18 yellow legal pads full of handwritten notes, back and forth, question answer, question answer,

the question answer.And, and I began to feel even at the beginning when I first wrote the very first response that I was receiving to answer your question about how it felt.It's not careful.

I could feel the tears brimming at the bridge of my eyes.I wasn't outright crying out loud, but just very cheerful.The kinds of tears, the kind of tears that we experienced when we're full of joy.Joyful is happening and we don't know why,

but were just filled with tears of joy.That's how it felt.So I kept kept up with the experience.And then at one point julie about two thirds of the way through that the very early going, I saw myself writing this will one day become a book and it will be accessed by many people.

And I remember when I thought in that moment, I thought now I've got you know, I got you because everything else that I've been receiving was conceptual in nature.It could be could not be,

who could tell, We would know right, but here was a statement of fact that could be measured.It has a measurable outcome.This will one day become a book.And I thought of course,

there's no way in the world, no way in the world that any publisher on the planet is going to publish a book by a guy who sent in handwritten notes.I could just imagine him.I can imagine the publisher going up to the two staff saying,

hold the presses, hold the presses.We got a guy here who is talking to God, It's not going to happen of course.And I knew it wasn't one chance of anyone who is a man of the world.I wasn't born yesterday.

I was almost 50 years old.I thought this is not going to happen.So I thought I'm just going to send them in.I'm gonna send him these handwritten notes to publisher.And then I thought maybe I'd better not do that.

What if they get lost to us? I did.I did in fact find a stenographer, a friend of mine, a friend of a friend who was a court stenographer.And I said, would you be willing to just, I don't have much,

much much money to pay you, but I can give you a little bit.She said, okay, I'll be happy to.And she typed up the notes and she came to my little cottage about a week later and said, what is this stuff?

Where is this coming from? This is unbelievable.I really she's the first person I showed it to, jesus.I can't believe what I'm typing here.I said, well, interesting.

So I sent it to the publisher who called me in about two days instead, we're going to publish this book.We don't want to we wish you wouldn't call it conversations we've got because it's going to be a pushback.No one's gonna people are going to be pushed away from it.

No one's gonna want to read a book with that title.But if you can give it a new title.And I said no, you know, I can't honestly I can't, I experienced it.It's a conversation with God,

I'm not going to call it something else.That's what it is called fat or don't publish it.And they said, well, okay, and they published it by that title? Never Right.

Not many people really were not interested.It only still over a million copies.I'm not being translated into 37 languages, not bragging just noticing.It's just yeah, hold on,

everyone watching.It's going up here.Here we go now.It's on the bookshelf conversations with God.Yeah, that's an amazing, amazing story.I actually have tears in my eyes as you're speaking, just tuning into that,

you know, it's easy to hear it now.I'm just thinking of who where you were then, you know, in this little cottage in the back of the legal public.It's just to me it really, it showcases what I think you really also talk about in this,

in this book.Now, the Gods solution about, you know, this this essence of love um and coming through you and Just how beautiful and that you kept with that title that you kept with it.I didn't really feel I had a choice.

You should set the stage a little more firmly.Nothing in my life was working at that point.I didn't wake up at 4:23 AM, angry about nothing.Just to set the stage.I had just been fired.

Just been released.Not fired.Downsized is a better because I wasn't fired for bad performance.He just downsize because the company was losing money and I was last in first out my seniority.So the seniority rule got me and I was out the door.

So I had lost my job.My relationship with my significant other was dissolving.It had already dissolved at that point, very in front of my eyes.And then to add insult to injury.I'm driving down the road actually going to visit my Children at the home of my then former wife for parent parental visitation.

I'm on the way and some older gentleman, God bless him, decides to turn in front of me.He makes a left turn in front of me.He misjudged my speed.I wasn't going fast, even the police records showed,

because they measure the skid marks was going about 23 miles an hour and he just tootling along, but he misjudged my speed, cracked right into the side of my car, into the right front side.

I mean, the left front side of my car, on the driver's side and I broke my neck.The impact snapped my neck and I'm not talking about a hairline fracture.I'm talking about a three quarter inch avulsion fracture of the seventh cervical vertebrae posterior early I recall the exact wording of the medical report.

A three quarter inch fracture in your neck is big enough to put a pencil through.I'm talking about a hairline fracture, Wow.And when I got to the hospital, the Doctor said,

two young men, you are luckier than, you know, because most people who suffer this kind of a break in the neck died because it usually severs the spinal cord or if they don't die, they usually paralyzed for life.

He said, you are neither, it's going to take a while to rehabilitate.You could be a year or two, but you've not suffered any severe paralysis and you're still alive, you know?

And I wish I could have thought why? Why? And then I that's that's what put me in that place When I woke up before 4:23 AM and I said Okay what does it take to make life work? And I have obeyed the rules for most of them.

Right? Break any really big rules right? You know what what does it take? What what don't I understand here.That was the background that caused me to go to that young illegal path.And I see now of course that Albert was a blessing.

I wound up living on the sidewalk.You should know for a year.That is.I had no job once I broke my neck I couldn't even get a job I was applying.I just I just lost my job as I explained.But I went around looking for any kind of work box boy at the grocery store.

I'll do anything, I'll sweep up, I'll clean the bathrooms at the hotel, give me anything.Be a janitor night watchman.Nobody would hire me for the simplest job.They did it with one guy.

Was honest with me, he said.He said, look, look, he said, mr Walsh, you're walking insurance claim, you walking around with the philadelphia collar with a therapeutic color on you, holding your head up one wrong move.

And we're going to be wanting to paying your insurance bills, your health insurance for the rest of our for the rest of our lives.No, we can't hire somebody who's already crippled.We can't we can't have you working here.

I couldn't find work anywhere.I wound up losing even that little grandma apartment that was not no longer living there, you know? And I wound up living on the sidewalk, living on the street.

I had nowhere to go.My former wife did, God bless her, let me have the sleeping bag of the tent that we had as our camping equipment.She's okay, take it.And I got I had a tent and a sleeping bag that was it.

And and that is all I had and two pair of slacks, a couple of shirts, one pair of shoes, the extent of my worldly possessions.And I lived in that tent on a little piece of land and I walked the streets.This is not for a tough week or a tough month or even,

you know, tough winter.This went on for a year of my life.A year of my life, wow.And I would get up in the morning was nothing, not even 25 cents to my name, because whatever I did collect that day on the street was already gone.

So it hit the pavement again, going from person to person with my hand out.Could she help a person in need? Would you be willing to just give anything anything? You know?

Some people would say all I had was a couple of coins.They said, you know, honest to God, a couple of quarters like get a couple of quarters from everybody I think eat today.Please let me have those couple of quarters.

And I learned about pride and the loss of it in the beginning of it and the beginning of strength and courage to even ask for help.I learned about all of that and I learned about how it was to get up in the middle of the night and not no.Are you going to eat the next year and wait for the police to come along and tell you to move the tension and don't don't think you're going to camp out here because you can't it wasn't that way for a year.

That's when I started asking her.All right.All right.Obviously, there's something I don't understand.Yeah, What is it? But I don't understand.That's really what created what I came to call my conversations with God who would have sought.I did send it to a publisher and they did printed and who in a million years would have ever imagined I am that it would wind up being run by people all over the world in 37 different languages and by some young woman in the Washington D.

C.Area calling me on the phone and and asking me questions about today, would it sound? But that's my story and I'm sticking to it, wow.I just that is a low that, you know,

I'm thinking, gosh, I've had lows.I thank goodness.I mean, I I haven't experienced that, but I could I can't even imagine.I remember you talking about your background and then you had struggled.I didn't realize my gosh to go a whole year on the street.

I mean, of course, I'm thinking using the restroom like cleanliness.My dear Julia.You can't even imagine I'd go into restaurants, right? And the manager will meet me at the door.He'd seen you coming in if he was somewhere near the front entrance and they would say no,

no, no, don't.Because because of course he looked terribly unkempt.I didn't smell all that good.My hair.I hadn't had a haircut in weeks and I looked like an unsavory character.He said,

no, no.I said, please, I just need to use the restroom.Just need to use the bathroom.I'll be in and out.We can just just, no, we can't.I remember one time the owner of the place, a lady must have owned it.

She came up behind him.I remember distinctly and she just said over heaven's sake jim, let him in.And she looked at me, she said in and out, promise.I said promise in and out just to find a place to leave yourself wow, forget about eating and but to go into a restaurant like that and smell all the food,

smell all these savory steaks on people's place and such and then and then walk up and hit the street again to see if you can collect a dollar 15 and maybe buy a bag of french fries before the day.Was wow,

interesting way to live.They made a movie of it of course Hollywood came along.Years later the man who the producer who produced Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and many other films.They asked me if they could make a movie of my life and they put most of this on film in the movie called conversations with God.

Hello, my beautiful soul, Family, Soul Brothers and sisters.This is julie.I'm just interrupting this wonderful conversation for a moment just to let you know that if you have had that inkling or little inner baby calling to do more, to bring more light to this planet,

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This feels like it resonates and of course feel free to share with anyone.You think this might benefit.All right, we're going to go back to the show and I'm sending so much love.I'm just thinking,

you know, what might might have been going through your head to anger.I don't know, maybe worthiness.And you know how you felt it thought about yourself and then it's almost you know what, I'm curious this book because I've I've listened and read it,

you know, many times.It's funny when you can ask those questions and like, I think I'm in his head like I would have asked that question to you.I'm really so grateful.Like,

so it usually way more articulate, but did you It almost feels like that book that it was it part of the healing agent for you.So take us from to be there.Yeah,

wow, I'm sorry.I interrupted the flow.Go ahead and finish your thought.Well now just from that I'm like the gap from, I can't even imagine thinking you walking in this restaurant smelling food just needing to use the bathroom, like hoping you're going to eat,

hoping of a place to sleep, probably anxious.I can't even imagine you're body and how you felt and then to the place where now it's being published and you know how life has just turned around and I know you talked a bit about, you know,

you just didn't understand it.Like where's the cliff notes that like give me the guy like what did I miss here? Like why don't I know calculus like I thought I thought they're adding and subtracting was enough and how maybe just if it's okay to share a little bit about that that that turning the boat around, how did that happen?

What was that like That? What had happened was simply they published a book and within about, I think within 2.5 months, something like 14 weeks as I recall the book was on the new york times best seller list.Much to the surprise of because the publisher was not a major publisher.

We're not talking about Random House or one of the big publishers, little relatively small publisher.Well, the independent books on the east coast called Hampton Roads.But the book wanted making the new york Times best seller list.

And then one of the major publishers swooped in and and asked this smaller publisher they wanted to buy the book from them.They saw that the book was doing very well on the on the list.And so they offered the small publisher of substantial amount of money that's all in the movie.

By the way, They offered him actually $1 million dollars from the book now and this is in the film.And he rejected it.He said no, I don't think we can make a million on our own.And they publisher in new york said,

okay, it was partner, the partner publishing people.And put them said, okay, a million and a half.But that's our final offer.And I looked at the I was there with the publisher and I thought he's not going to turn this down.And he didn't.

He said, okay, all right, fair enough.You got it, it's yours.And put them bought the book for him later and a half part of which of course I received mm a substantial part of it.So I went literally overnight from a person who had I was under a roof.

At that point, I don't want to pretend that was still outside.I was under a roof at that point, but I was, I had nothing to speak of.It's literally rags to riches and that's also demonstrated in the movie.And so all of a sudden I realized the next morning that I had more money than I could ever imagine having in your lifetime and I could spend it as I chose.

And I didn't go on a spending bender and didn't go out and buy all kinds of fancy stuff.I didn't even know how to do that.I didn't have the, didn't have the point of view about life to go ahead and do that.But I didn't find myself a nice apartment that I could rift and bought a few clothes and like that.

Yeah.I realized when I got my first one to check, I'm telling you really private stuff.I don't normally share this.But you asked a private question.I remember when I got my first wanted to check and I opened it up.I remember this vividly $90, 000 mm as a royal teacher and I thought the car,

what's happened here? Right? What happened here? This is outside of my ability to even comprehend.Yeah.And so I I saw my life changed dramatically.I didn't go on a bender because I did, I did go out and buy a new car.

Fair enough.Got myself like the first new car ever bought in my life? 50 years old.I never bought a new car in my life.I purchased used cars.Second hand cars.But I was the first time I ever bought a brand new car.

I did up on a new car right off the lot.But that was, that was the biggest thing I wanted everything else.It was not like cadillac or Lincoln.It was just the second was a Buick.No,

I don't know.It was an Oldsmobile.I remember that now because I remember thinking my father used to driving Oldsmobile.Does anybody driving Oldsmobile today? I mean,

you see how old I am.But anyway, that's what I bought and that was the biggest purchase I made and I just moved through my life.But I can tell you one thing.Surely I can tell you one thing.

I never, never pass the person in the street.Well, I could see needed some help.Mhm.Somebody leaning up against the wall of the building.Leave us alone, bottle of something in a brown paper bag,

taking a sip.This is all they could do.It's the best he could do with this.Mine is just dull.It it was a little basket out in front of him.The little cardboard sinus says anything else.I never,

ever, ever, ever from that day to this passed a person in need without sleeping a little something their way.And I make sure.And I tell everyone I talked to him sure.One of my audiences,

all the lectures I've done and I've lectured all over the world and most of the major capitals on the planet.I've lectured and told my choices in all those languages.Always keep her little spare.

Have it in the dashboard of your car, have it on the tree next to the extra.Have some in your pocket when you're walking down the street, just a little spare.A couple of $5 bills or even a ticket.

And as you're walking down the street, let it be your vote, Your voice of gratitude.Thank you God mm along.You could never know how much that can mean to a person who could live for three days Off of that $10 mm and find a way to stay alive.But more important people.

Yeah.We knew their faith in the human race, life itself.Well, it's beautiful.That's really I remembered your straight just you were talked about the couple, the younger couple that you took in and gave them whatever was in your fridge and you give them some hot chocolate and you're like,

I remember that story.I remember you talking about it and thinking, you know that it really it just I didn't realize the background that you'd come from, You know,

and I thought that's so lovely that you did that.And I think today I just love what you said about restoring faith in humanity.And I know this is something you get into this in your in your most recent book.Um and I have to tell you,

it's just really quickly, I was with my son yesterday, we were out actually in Bethesda, you know the area and in the D.C.Area there was a man there and people just walked by him.He was sitting with his cardboard box and his,

you know, um it makes me cry.It is bullet really like it brings tears to my eyes because I could see it, you know, the light in his eyes.And I had, you know, I gave him some change.

We I mean it wasn't a lot, but we went to the supermarket to return something and just I was like, I don't know the whole thing of berries and my son was like, he might be allergic.

He's going to have a very cute actually.Like he could have a reaction.So I thought, okay, it's not a lot.But at least like I got a huge bag of oranges because they're easy to peel and they're vitamins.It was like thinking what's nutritional?

I don't know if he's, I probably could have gotten more, could have been a sandwich, but I figured, well that I know at least is something healthy.And he was I mean, it was nothing to do that.

He was so grateful.And you know, as I was finishing the book, I don't want to give it all away.But you know, you you talk about this in your last chapter, this this being having that gratitude factor.

And I just I'm really touched by what you shared.I didn't know your, I didn't I haven't heard you said it like that.And I saw it yesterday.You know, and I think there's this restoring hope in humanity and I can't think of a more important topic right now is restoring hope in this species.And you know,

just to dive into this book.I I was like, everyone needs to read the gods solution.Everyone needs to read this.I was like, I would be part of the religion you're creating or whatever you wanna call it.Um,

so I just thank you for sharing that and who you are honestly julie to those who are watching us now that this is way more than simply doing nice things.This is more than your good good deed for the day.

I don't want people to think that it's that simplistic.It's a wonderful thing to do.I'm not denigrating it are making it small, please.If you can think of a good DVD every day, do it.

But this, this goes way beyond that.Yeah.This goes to a place of actually changing your mind by changing your whole definition of who and what God is of what God wants and how that new idea flows through you in a particular way, at a particular time for a particular reason.

Because it's our fundamental idea about God, the idea that we hold in front of ourselves who has got anyway, is there even a God? And if there is a god? Because the book starts by the way,

with that question, folks, the book begins with an interesting question, Hey, you know what? If there is a God, you can't even be sure there is, but if there is a God, why is the world such a mess?

Excuse me.But what's the point of having a God if the world's continually facing the danger of its own self annihilation or falling apart? For one other reason, one reason or another from the beginning from the beginning of human history,

and increasingly, as each day goes by, as we increase in our so called ability to solve problems, we have even larger ones and larger ones in larger ones.So excuse me,

What's the point of having a higher power? If we are powerless to do anything about the way life is being experienced on earth? That's how the book begins.Was a very pointed and direct question.

And then the book says, you know what, as you consider the principle of that? The problem is not that there is not such a thing as a higher power, but it's something we haven't learned how to use it.The shipping can't even agree and who and what God is.

And the book points out that there are 4300 religions on the face of the years.Right now, I didn't make that number of Google it.Just google the question how many religions are there on earth? It'll tell you just under 4300 religions on the face of the earth today.

But with all those relations on the face of the earth, we can't seem to agree.We can come to a unified statement about who and what God is, what God wants, what God demands and requires.

What happens if we don't meet God's demands and how can we use this so called higher power in some way that allows us to produce the outcomes that we say we wish to produce.And the challenge that I say,

that place, I should say, before humanity is the challenge of creating a brand new definition.Because truly, it's been my observation.It's been my observation.That's the way we define God.

The way we think of God is how we behave that, as we think of God as a judgmental condemning and punishing deity.God does judge us.God will condemn us.God will punish us if you don't do what God wants.

Virtually every one of the major religions on the face of the earth teach those three principles.Again, I'm not making that up either.That's this theology.And because we observe and have been taught that a guy judges condemns and punishes,

we decide it's okay for us to judge, condemn and punish others.That stands to reason everywhere, to change our entire theology, our entire idea of who and what God is, how God functions,

how the DT moves through the experience, we call life, that we would move through life in a different way as well.What if we decided Dare I suggested that God could be defined in two words? Pure wow.

Now, when I put that in front of audiences on the internet these days, I do a lot of lecturing on the internet and people will say, you know, they raise their hand, you know,

on the zoom platform and they'll say O NEal, come on.Is that it? I mean that's the brand new revelation from the guy who talked to God, God is his love.Of course God is love.

Everyone agrees that God has loved.No one would disagree with that.Yeah, that's what that's what I said, wait, I said wait, wait, wait, relax guys, I didn't say God is love.You didn't hear me say God is love.

I said God is pure love.Mm It's the difference.Yeah.Pure Love once needs expects hopes for and commands nothing in return for the expressing of it.That's pure love.

Can do we dare believe in a God who needs nothing, who wants nothing, Who demands nothing? And therefore can I sing it out loud? Yeah, this is nothing.Condemns nothing and then judges nothing.

Do we dare believe in that kind of God? Well, of course it would be hard for us to do that because if we embraced such a notion, we would have to behave that way ourselves.Yeah.

Because if we want to model our behavior on the highest demonstration of what is good and right and true there is in the universe.If we want to model our behavior on the behavior of God, we would have to ourselves never again judge condemn or punish anybody wow with that alter human behavior.

Would that bring a change in our politics, in our economics, in our social constructions to say nothing of our spirituality, I'm sorry, but it would be revolutionary.That is it would change everything.

And that's what I call the gods solution.Mm To decide that you are pure love that you are an individual ation of divinity.I'm not saying you're God.Somebody accused me the other day On my facebook page, he's walking around saying that I am God.

I didn't say that you are a god, not in the totality of God.I'm saying that you are an individual ation Yeah.Of the divine that you are to God as as a wave is to the ocean.When the wave arises from the ocean,

it's not separate from the ocean.It's not other than the ocean.It's simply the ocean arising in individuated form in all its glory and on its power.Duplicating the glory and power of the ocean itself in singular and proportionate form, and when that expression is complete,

it receives back into the ocean.That is precisely the relationship that we have with the divine in my understanding.That's what I was told in my conversations, was gone.

Now, if humanity simply embraced that notion that understanding and simply changed its idea of the God that we received back into of who and what is God? Is it really a being that's angry?

You know, what's interesting? Read the bible with a with a calculator, You don't probably don't want to do it.But just just just for this, for the sake of the experiment, pick up a hand calculator and put it next to your bible and read the bible with a calculator and add up every time.

It's a statement in the bible about how God eater himself or others at his direction, killed or hurt people and you'll discover that over a million people have been killed at the hand was a command of body of God in the bible, Yeah,

as recorded in sacred scripture, see because here's how it is.I don't know how it how it was for you folks, but I was born and raised, I was in the catholic tradition, I'm not going to catholic bash as I said earlier.

I don't want to get into that, but I want to share with you an anecdote when I was nine years old.I was told by the priest in catechism class.If you miss Mass, if you miss mass and sunday,

then don't have a good excuse if you're caring for a sick mother or if you're an adult and you have to go to work fair enough.But if you just go out to play a game of golf or if you're a nine year old child and you want to just go play a little softball on sunday morning at the playground.And as you should get hit by a car the next day and unfortunately die in the accident,

you're not going to have them, You will not return to God in him.You may not go to hell.Hell is for the really severe offenders.You'll go to a place called purgatory purgatory where you have to suffer the same as how long.It's not forever.

I've had a couple of marriages like that, but that's another old story.So here you are in purgatory and you have to burn off your sins until you can and is suffering abject suffering until you can be purified and then you can return, then you can return to God in heaven because you missed mass on sunday.

But the teaching of that particular church is even worse than that.Mm I was told that if I belong to the right of religion, it doesn't matter how nice to you.What kind are you?

I have compassionate, I am, how caring I am, how generous I am, how forgiving I am, how loving I am.None of that matters.I could be one of the nicest people in the face of the earth.But you know what?

Yeah, I chose the wrong religion and God says, sorry, you're going to help where you'll suffer everlasting torture.Them's the rules.All right, You got to belong to this church or you're out if you're a buddhist sure a muslim, if you're a jew,

if you belong to my religion whatsoever, if you happen to be, what can I tell you? You're out? Because there's only one way to get in, and that's just how it is, and that's the God in whom we believed.

No wonder we play again on this planet.You got to belong to our nationality or you're out, build the fences, build the walls.You can't come in unless you're one of us.What did we get that idea?

No, no, you can't come in unless you're one of us.And they wonder why the world is the way it is.Come on, people, come on.I mean, really, this is the God in who we believe, or is it time for a new understanding?

I'm suggesting that the world is begging for a new understanding of life and how it works of God and who and what it is of ourselves and who we are and what is our true identity, A new understanding of everything.

Time to throw out the old understandings.Because, you know, it's fascinating.We've been living with these old understandings about God for thousands of years.I mean,

we've been taught this for thousands of years and we're still seeking and struggling striving and suffering.Do you know that 653 Children on this planet die of starvation every day? Not every day.

I meant I meant to say every hour.Yeah, mm I made that mistake deliberately because I wanted to catch you.I actually know the statistics.It's every our 153 Children die on this planet of starvation while we throw away more food in the restaurants of paris London and new york than would be needed to feed an entire village for a week.Yeah.

And we call ourselves an advanced civilization me out.But there's something we can do about it.I don't want you to be one of those who says, well Neil, you know,

you're raising very good points that we hear you, but what can I do? What you can do is move through the world in a way which demonstrates who and what you are with everything you think say and do and which therefore shows others who they are as well.So raise not your fist,

you haven't been curse the darkness, not but pure light unto the darkness just as much.Oh, it's very powerful what you're saying.And one of the thoughts that comes to mind, I mean,

this is a lot.I'm just thinking for everyone.I will have notes because there's so much in what you're saying, it's really about being this.Um the other piece and you talk about this in the book is understanding this concept of God, this deity.

We're putting human terms on it.And I think you get into that mistaken mistake thinking that making God in the image of humans I think is the way you said it and it's a fallacy.That's where we,

you know, this judgmental, harsh, condemning entity.It's like, how could that even be? Um and it kind of, it just reminds me of back to the beginning, this pure love this.

I'm gonna write that somewhere where I can see this, the wanting, needing, expecting, commanding nothing in return.Just for the expressing of it.Like that is that's something to really sit with the meditate over for a long time.That's pretty.

And you even, can you even love your own spouse in that way? Forget about the world, you even love the person across the pillow.Yeah.In that way, needing, wanting,

expecting, hoping for and demanding nothing in return.Terry, I dairy yeah.Just do it.You know, for a day, even for an hour, it'll change your life.Be careful this stuff can change your life.Never walk through the world in the same way again.

Yeah.Do I practice this all the time? 24 hours a day, seven days a week now I'm not gonna sit here and try to pretend that I do because I don't and it's a high mark, high standard to meet at least now I know where I'm going.

At least now I know why I came to this planet, but my purpose is here because I finally know who I am and what I'm doing here.It took me a half century on the planet to even come to that awareness and billions of people are not in that place from my observation nor resign for a half century.I thought it was about get the card with the girl,

gets a job etcetera etcetera etcetera.Get the house, gets a better car, get a better job, gets a better house.Doing the best I can here.I'm doing the best I can.You give me a break.

Mm And you know what's interesting, 98% of the world's people are spending 98% of their time on things that don't matter mm on things that don't matter that have nothing to do with what you're really doing here.That's the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first chapter of a book I wrote called The only thing that matters might find it interesting to pick up that piece of literature,

98% of the world's people are spending 98% of their time on things that don't matter.You're here.You came here to physicality to complete the agenda of the soul, not to get the guy,

get the girl, get the car, get the job, get the house, getting office in the court was your name on the door.That's not what's going on here yet.When you serve your souls agenda, which is the same by the way for every person,

the agenda of the soul is the same for every sentient being in the universe.To express, to experience, to demonstrate and to complete replacing into physicality of your true identity as an individual ation of divinity or in a super word, to evolve to evolve into the demonstration of that.

Now, what's interesting is that when you pay attention to that agenda and really serve that agenda to the best of your ability, all these other things following the new water back, all these are the things that you think you're trying to accomplish.

Get the guy, get the girl, get the car, get the job, get the house, gets a better car, get a better job, get the better up.It all happens automatically or someone much more eloquent than I will ever be.Once put it see key first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you.

I could of course be wrong about all of this lactic.So taking a breath over here as I just breathe that in and saying to all of the beautiful listeners, this is one of my one of the more stunning conversations that I've and part ever been able to share and I just thank God you survived that car incident and you're so living your souls agenda.

It's it's oozing out of the N.L.And you know I think what you said earlier, the best way I think to paraphrase is to be it to be this and to to be a model for others and you really you are that for me, you know that the goal of this whole show is really this idea of you know,

the U.S.You tuning into that individuated specific like your your special wave, I love that whatever that wave is, the ocean and I'm really behind, you know, I always use my body,

I'm just fully aligned with what you're saying.You know, I know you talk a lot about this this the power of gratitude and really tuning into that essence.And I gotta tell you,

I'm just feeling so thankful for who you are, what you're sharing with the world.We need it, we need this hope, everyone's listening and internalizing.I hope everyone hears me when I tell you that I'm not in my book that I I do better talking it than I do living in.

But at least at least now, as I said, a number of times, at least now I know what I'm up to and I went through most of my life having no idea who I am and why I'm here, at least now I'm clear about that,

and that gives me a direction in which I can move.I hope that on my gravestone it'll be shit.He almost got there.Mm.Yeah, it's beautiful.Well, you're you're definitely like, if this isn't getting there,

we all maybe we never get there.Maybe that's part of the maybe it's it's it's aiming aiming high for it.Well, I'm talking it pretty good, and if I when I get off the air here and I have to close down my computer and get back into the regular living of my life, we'll see how it goes in the kitchen.

Yeah, these shows up in the kitchen, doesn't it? My last question, if it's okay with you, I I usually ask, I call it a heart flare where you're maybe there's something I didn't ask you, or just a feeling of your heart wanting to share.

Something that it just feels like a little flare that um is coming up to the surface, and I wanted to give you the space, grace and time.If there's anything else, maybe I forgot to ask,

or just that you felt like sharing for your fair share to people have asked me at lectures, and when I'm I'm doing a book signing or whatever they've asked me, can you give me a tool?

Just a simple tool.Just take away from this encounter that could allow me to step off onto this path you're describing.So here's the tools that I would suggest I use it myself and it helps me every day before I see another person for the first time that day.Maybe it is when I opened my papers and I see my beloved on the next pillow across the bed.

Or maybe it's just a family member across the house.Perhaps it's a friend, a neighbor across the street or a total stranger across town or a person I never even heard of but just had discovered across the world, whoever it might be.

Before I begin my encounter with that person on that day, I say to myself, I don't say it out loud by the way, don't say this out loud because you're most likely to be misunderstood.Mm Let's say it to yourself.

Just a little comment from you to you.Before you begin your first interaction with that other human being.Here's what I say to myself.I have come that you may have life and that you may have it more abundantly.Your life will be made better today from my having passed through it.

I promise you, wow, Can you say that one more time, please? Yeah, I love what you just said and like I want to I'm going to write that we're going to hear.You gotta have a little fun.

You are so great.I was like I did just say that okay, here's here's what I say to myself.Even before I say the first word or have the first interaction.But the person on the other side of the bed,

much less the first on the other side of the world I have come that you may have life and that you may have it more abundantly.Your day will be made better today from having passed through it.I promise you,

That is stunning.And I just if we all said that Can't even imagine for 90 days.Be careful Because if you do that for 90 days without sale before your first interaction with anybody, the clerk at the post office,

the lady at the coffee shop, much less the person across the kitchen.If you do that for 90 days, somebody is going to look at you and they're going to see their version of By whose authority are you acting like this and you well then get to decide, Who are you Really?

Why are you here? Mhm.It will only be this is the most important decision that remain in your life.So what do I know? Take it in and throw it out if it doesn't resonate with you and if it does embrace it and move forward in your life is one of God's blessings.Mhm.

Thank you so much.I'm on for the challenge.Said, no, we can talk after like 90 days doing it right here.All my listeners can do with me Steve together.Let's do this.

Thank you so much for your You're 39 books in um you know, what do you know? All I know is What you're saying is resonating on a deep level and it's truly an honor.And I hope to have you back again soon for the rest of the 500 questions I have.

We'll come back whenever you ask, thank you for being such a light and so many of our lives and for what you shared today.Thanks for the opportunity to share this time.I forgot my friend,

I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.I created this podcast from my own heart's desire to amplify the vibration of compassion,

kindness, abundance, part magic and so much more both within you and the collective.I'm honored to be your host, your friend and your companion in this life journey.And I love feedback.

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Welcome my friend to the U.
S.
To podcast.
I'm julie Rissler and I am so honored to have you here in this show in community.
You'll find huge hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light to learn to trust their heart,
wisdom and help raise the consciousness of this planet just like you,
whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow light worker luminary or solo cast about navigating life as an empath,
my goal is the same.
To help you turn your fear into faith,
to remember that you are sacred,
to realign with your highest potential to be fully self expressed as your you ist.
You are you ready to join me on this journey?
It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.
Never forget the chances of being born were one and 14 trillion.
In other words,
you are pure positive,
divine light born to shine,
to live from your heart and to be your fullest usu Hello beloved us,
You listeners,
my soul family today is a really,
really special day for you,
for me and for all those that are tuning in and hope it's many.
I am so excited to be here with one of my most favorite authors and luminaries people and just getting to talk to him a little before you're gonna get to meet Neale Donald Walsch,
I can tell you he is a man of incredible heart and wisdom and so without further ado,
I want to share with you a little bit about our incredible guests today.
So grateful Neale Donald Walsch has written 39 books on contemporary spirituality and its practical application in everyday life,
including the nine book conversations with God series.
His titles have been translated into 37 languages.
His latest book is the God solution,
an amazing book.
This was published in December 2020 and it proposes an altered and totally non traditional spiritual approach to ending the seemingly interminable struggles of our species.
The gods solution bites humanity to embrace a new global ethic based on a refined and clarify definition of God.
This book proposes that there is a single statement of spiritual truth upon which all the world's religions could agree and which would birth a shift of spiritual paradigms around the globe of such magnitude that it would produce peace and happiness in our planet.
At last,
you can find more about Neale Donald Walsch at his website,
Neale Donald Walsch dot com.
We'll have all of this in the show notes and I just got to share before we bring him on for you to get to meet the amazing Neale Donald Walsch yourself To share that,
you know,
that this book conversations with God Part one literally has been with me since I read it about eight years ago and through the pandemic.
I read or listen to him almost every single day.
And so again,
such an honor without further do.
It is such a pleasure to bring you on Neil and to talk about your newest book.
Anything you feel like talking about because I got to say whatever comes out of your mouth and like wisdom.
So thank you for being here.
What a gift as a V neck.
She said whatever comes out of my mouth when I just wanted to see if she really meant it or if she was just putting you all on guys Russian.
I have to,
I have to,
they have to say no,
I hear words like that from julie and they're very kind and very generous,
generous,
maybe even generous to a fault.
Could I just begin please my friends by telling me that I'm not a luminary.
By any definition,
don't I wish I was.
But I'm an ordinary person who simply had an extraordinary experience.
And I was given the opportunity to pass that experience along to others.
And I did take that opportunity.
Fair enough.
But that's my only achievement really in this life.
If somebody were to ask me what my goal is for the rest of my life,
it would be to actually live full out the massachusetts I've been invited to share.
So please don't consider me a luminary.
But if you want to call me,
you know,
and unyielding messenger,
I'll accept that title.
That's what I am,
mm.
And I'm healed Messenger.
But at least I know at least I know now for the first time in my life where I'm going And why and I didn't know that for the 1st 50 years of my life.
So at least I have that I can fall back on.
And that's the truth of me.
So pretend the tree uh,
introduced me by saying,
here's a man who's failed at just about everything,
relationships,
career,
even keeping his health in decent shape.
He's failed at just about everything.
But at least now he knows why and now he's moving forward with his life and doing the best he can.
If that were the introduction,
I would say,
thank you and here I am.
How can I serve you Well,
we could do it.
We could do a takeover.
However over you.
Hear what I just had to say because I want them to know,
I want everyone who's listening and watching Now.
You know that it's totally okay to be right where you are.
You don't have to be at some elevated place.
It's okay if you are,
Gosh knows,
but it's not required and God is not looking down on,
you know,
making a list and checking it twice and going to find out who's naughty and nice.
That's not the god of this university.
Yeah,
That's the message I want her everyone to hear.
Yeah.
And then they can see it in mean for sure,
really,
really beautiful what you just said.
Obviously it can feel the authenticity.
And one of the things you said that I think is really was just powerful was you said that you didn't know where you were going,
but now you do.
And I was thinking maybe we could start out just by where are you going?
What is,
what does that mean to you?
Thank you for asking truly.
I'm I'm going to a place where I feel that I'm serving my soul's agenda.
You see,
I didn't know that my soul had an agenda.
I knew all about the soul in loose terms,
you know,
as a child,
I heard about it from my upbringing in a parochial school,
and of course,
you hear about it all over the internet and all over in books.
You read the Soul of this,
the Soul that but I didn't really understand,
you know,
that the soul had an agenda,
that the soul was actually an aspect of my being,
the most powerful,
the most important aspect of my being.
And so where I'm going now is to place where I can feel that I am now actually serving my soul's agenda,
but I'm no longer wandering about the planet,
trying to figure out how to get through life or what my goals and objectives should be julie As a child.
I and as a young man in my late 18,
17,
18,
19,
in those early years of my life,
I was kind of taught not specifically by my parents,
but by my culture,
but my civilization.
I was told Neo,
here are the here,
here are the rules of the rules of the road,
here's your agenda.
Get the car,
get the girl,
by the way,
you have to have the car in order to get the girls know Cardinal girl in that order,
but you get the car and get the girl,
get the job.
Ultimately get the house,
get to get the spouse,
get the Children,
get the better job,
get the better car,
get the better house,
get the better spouse,
get the better spouse,
get the better spouse.
And then if you're lucky,
you get the office in the corner with your name on the door,
Maybe even get the building on the corner with your name on the building and finally get the retirement watch and get the gray hair and get the cruise tickets and get the sickness and then get out.
It was basically the formula,
I was seeing everybody in my life living and I thought,
okay,
that's what I need to do,
Get the car and get the girl,
get the job,
etc,
etc.
And then I can maybe have a halfway decent life.
It's only when I got to be 50 years old,
I'm talking about half a century on the planet chili.
Yeah,
I had even the slightest inkling,
oh,
what I'm really doing here,
Who really am and why I came to,
if you please the realm of the physical,
what's this really all about?
It never even occurred to me and no one was teaching me,
no one was telling me there were no college courses on this topic.
And when I was being taught by the world's religions with respect,
because there's great wisdom in the world's religious.
I'm not here to religion bash,
but what I was taught by the world's religions I've since learned was simply not inaccurate.
Much of it,
as I said,
contained great wisdom,
but Julia was incomplete.
Yeah.
And so I didn't have the whole picture.
So I was moving through life to give you an analogy to use a metaphor,
like a child who had learned to add and subtract.
But it thinks that's not the risk of mathematics.
I can have a subtract.
I'm in fourth grade and I'm really good at addition and subtraction.
And,
and then you wake up one day and realize that's not all there is to mathematics.
There's an algebra and geometry and calculus and higher math and algorithms and all sorts of aspects of mathematics we didn't even knew existed,
much less really using in our daily life.
And that's kind of a metaphor because that's how it feels to me that we have experience the sickening life that we call God.
Or if you please allow brahman young wage,
although whatever word we use to refer to that inevitable essence that we call the divine.
So,
you know,
we don't know the half of it.
It seems to me.
And that's why I began looking seriously at the question.
Is it possible just possible that there's something we don't understand here fully above God.
Yeah.
About life and about ourselves.
The understanding of which would change everything.
And that's what led me to have life come to call.
My conversations was gone.
Mm I feel like so I'm going to,
this always happens a flood of questions and I know I want to come back to your book now.
Would it be okay though to ask you a question about just how that came to be The conversations with God.
You know,
I always was wondering,
I know you've talked about in the book,
you were in the middle of the night and there was a legal pad.
Actually pictured it as a a legal pad.
You got the pencil and like this must have been a couple years ago.
And did did you did you you know,
we've talked a lot about intuition or that sense of connection.
Did it come?
Was it audience?
Was it did you feel an energy like was it I'm just curious how that rushed in that information for you.
Let me let me explain to you why it rushed in.
First of all,
I woke up one morning about 26 27 years ago In the middle of the night.
It was 4:23 AM and I was just flushed with anger,
breathing.
I just woke up angry because I must have been having not such a pleasant dream.
But I know I woke up in the middle of the night thinking I don't understand why is my life the way it is,
what does it take to make life work and what have I done to deserve a life of such continuing struggle.
And so I tried to go back to sleep but I was unsuccessful.
So I thought oh the heck with it.
I threw back the covers and went out to the little to the couch in the little apartment that he wasn't an apartment to look at little cottage in the back of someone's house,
cover in law or grandmother's cottage that this rich couple had in the back on the back of their property.
And I was renting it for very little money,
relatively speaking.
I'm sitting there on the couch and there was a yellow legal pad.
It happened to be on the coffee table.
Uh,
and I picked it up.
There was a pen there and I started writing an angry letter to God.
I just thought and I wrote those same questions,
Do God,
what does it take to make life work?
And you know,
somebody tell me the rules,
I'll play,
I promise I'll play,
Give me the damn rulebook.
And after you give me the rules,
don't change them because it sounds like the rules of life were changing every time I turn around and I was furious,
I was really angry.
And that's when I really felt the presence.
I heard a voice over my right shoulder.
Or at least I thought I do.
Of course I turned around,
there was nobody there but the voice said neon.
Do you really want answers to all of these questions?
Or are you just venting?
Remember I turned around and she's all great.
Not only am I furious,
but I'm going crazy.
There's nobody there.
You know,
What am I thinking?
I remember thinking to myself,
I am venting.
You bet I am inventing,
you know.
And if you got answers,
I sure would like to know what they are.
And then that sense that presence moved on to see into my head,
into my mind.
And I began hearing inside my mind like like if you're listening to the sound of your own thoughts,
do you ever just observe yourself thinking?
Sometimes you can actually almost hear your thoughts with an unspoken voice and what I call a voice is voice nevertheless you nevertheless here,
that's not.
So I started human thoughts.
Okay,
if you want answers to ask away,
I started writing down on my yellow legal pad,
the questions that I had and no sooner did I even start the sentence that the answer would come to me like a download.
Just I started writing when I was I want to say hearing in my mind and I began writing and writing.
And I even at one point this is a true story.
I actually had to say,
well,
slow down so I'm not so fast.
I can't write that fast.
And actually the thoughts came to me more slowly,
wow,
what's this?
Such a voice began to pick up the speed of my ability to hand write the answer.
And I was writing it.
It was like taking dictation very much like taking dictation.
But when I would receive the answer to any question I had I would have lots of what I would call.
Yeah.
But yeah but what about this?
Yeah but what about that?
No no no wait a minute.
That can't be true.
So I kept on writing my answers and my Yeah buts and which which produce additional questions and I would get additional answers Until what I was experiencing for hours on end was question answered,
question answering question answer.
This went on for six or eight hours,
fortunately the next day what happened to be a saturday and I wasn't working.
So I allowed myself to just have the experience as I recall to the 1930 or 10 o'clock in the morning.
Mind you this started around 4 23 in the morning.
So I was still doing this and I was but I was starting to run out of energy my hand,
just like when you write a very long letter,
started getting writer's cramp.
It was always knew I wasn't using the computer as you pointed out.
This is quite a while ago and I didn't have a laptop computer in my home and I was just writing this all out by hand,
but I found it fascinating.
So I let it go at that.
I got on with my day.
But the next morning at 4 23 in the morning or so,
I woke up again and had this urge and get back to the yellow yellow legal pad,
get back to the process.
So I did.
I went back out and there was my legal pad on the coffee table almost filled.
Uh and I had to run out to the drugstore.
I remember that day and get a few more yellow legal pads.
And I did.
I bought for your full of them.
Before I finished,
I wound up with like 15 or 18 yellow legal pads full of handwritten notes,
back and forth,
question answer,
question answer,
the question answer.
And,
and I began to feel even at the beginning when I first wrote the very first response that I was receiving to answer your question about how it felt.
It's not careful.
I could feel the tears brimming at the bridge of my eyes.
I wasn't outright crying out loud,
but just very cheerful.
The kinds of tears,
the kind of tears that we experienced when we're full of joy.
Joyful is happening and we don't know why,
but were just filled with tears of joy.
That's how it felt.
So I kept kept up with the experience.
And then at one point julie about two thirds of the way through that the very early going,
I saw myself writing this will one day become a book and it will be accessed by many people.
And I remember when I thought in that moment,
I thought now I've got you know,
I got you because everything else that I've been receiving was conceptual in nature.
It could be could not be,
who could tell,
We would know right,
but here was a statement of fact that could be measured.
It has a measurable outcome.
This will one day become a book.
And I thought of course,
there's no way in the world,
no way in the world that any publisher on the planet is going to publish a book by a guy who sent in handwritten notes.
I could just imagine him.
I can imagine the publisher going up to the two staff saying,
hold the presses,
hold the presses.
We got a guy here who is talking to God,
It's not going to happen of course.
And I knew it wasn't one chance of anyone who is a man of the world.
I wasn't born yesterday.
I was almost 50 years old.
I thought this is not going to happen.
So I thought I'm just going to send them in.
I'm gonna send him these handwritten notes to publisher.
And then I thought maybe I'd better not do that.
What if they get lost to us?
I did.
I did in fact find a stenographer,
a friend of mine,
a friend of a friend who was a court stenographer.
And I said,
would you be willing to just,
I don't have much,
much much money to pay you,
but I can give you a little bit.
She said,
okay,
I'll be happy to.
And she typed up the notes and she came to my little cottage about a week later and said,
what is this stuff?
Where is this coming from?
This is unbelievable.
I really she's the first person I showed it to,
jesus.
I can't believe what I'm typing here.
I said,
well,
interesting.
So I sent it to the publisher who called me in about two days instead,
we're going to publish this book.
We don't want to we wish you wouldn't call it conversations we've got because it's going to be a pushback.
No one's gonna people are going to be pushed away from it.
No one's gonna want to read a book with that title.
But if you can give it a new title.
And I said no,
you know,
I can't honestly I can't,
I experienced it.
It's a conversation with God,
I'm not going to call it something else.
That's what it is called fat or don't publish it.
And they said,
well,
okay,
and they published it by that title?
Never Right.
Not many people really were not interested.
It only still over a million copies.
I'm not being translated into 37 languages,
not bragging just noticing.
It's just yeah,
hold on,
everyone watching.
It's going up here.
Here we go now.
It's on the bookshelf conversations with God.
Yeah,
that's an amazing,
amazing story.
I actually have tears in my eyes as you're speaking,
just tuning into that,
you know,
it's easy to hear it now.
I'm just thinking of who where you were then,
you know,
in this little cottage in the back of the legal public.
It's just to me it really,
it showcases what I think you really also talk about in this,
in this book.
Now,
the Gods solution about,
you know,
this this essence of love um and coming through you and Just how beautiful and that you kept with that title that you kept with it.
I didn't really feel I had a choice.
You should set the stage a little more firmly.
Nothing in my life was working at that point.
I didn't wake up at 4:23 AM,
angry about nothing.
Just to set the stage.
I had just been fired.
Just been released.
Not fired.
Downsized is a better because I wasn't fired for bad performance.
He just downsize because the company was losing money and I was last in first out my seniority.
So the seniority rule got me and I was out the door.
So I had lost my job.
My relationship with my significant other was dissolving.
It had already dissolved at that point,
very in front of my eyes.
And then to add insult to injury.
I'm driving down the road actually going to visit my Children at the home of my then former wife for parent parental visitation.
I'm on the way and some older gentleman,
God bless him,
decides to turn in front of me.
He makes a left turn in front of me.
He misjudged my speed.
I wasn't going fast,
even the police records showed,
because they measure the skid marks was going about 23 miles an hour and he just tootling along,
but he misjudged my speed,
cracked right into the side of my car,
into the right front side.
I mean,
the left front side of my car,
on the driver's side and I broke my neck.
The impact snapped my neck and I'm not talking about a hairline fracture.
I'm talking about a three quarter inch avulsion fracture of the seventh cervical vertebrae posterior early I recall the exact wording of the medical report.
A three quarter inch fracture in your neck is big enough to put a pencil through.
I'm talking about a hairline fracture,
Wow.
And when I got to the hospital,
the Doctor said,
two young men,
you are luckier than,
you know,
because most people who suffer this kind of a break in the neck died because it usually severs the spinal cord or if they don't die,
they usually paralyzed for life.
He said,
you are neither,
it's going to take a while to rehabilitate.
You could be a year or two,
but you've not suffered any severe paralysis and you're still alive,
you know?
And I wish I could have thought why?
Why?
And then I that's that's what put me in that place When I woke up before 4:23 AM and I said Okay what does it take to make life work?
And I have obeyed the rules for most of them.
Right?
Break any really big rules right?
You know what what does it take?
What what don't I understand here.
That was the background that caused me to go to that young illegal path.
And I see now of course that Albert was a blessing.
I wound up living on the sidewalk.
You should know for a year.
That is.
I had no job once I broke my neck I couldn't even get a job I was applying.
I just I just lost my job as I explained.
But I went around looking for any kind of work box boy at the grocery store.
I'll do anything,
I'll sweep up,
I'll clean the bathrooms at the hotel,
give me anything.
Be a janitor night watchman.
Nobody would hire me for the simplest job.
They did it with one guy.
Was honest with me,
he said.
He said,
look,
look,
he said,
mr Walsh,
you're walking insurance claim,
you walking around with the philadelphia collar with a therapeutic color on you,
holding your head up one wrong move.
And we're going to be wanting to paying your insurance bills,
your health insurance for the rest of our for the rest of our lives.
No,
we can't hire somebody who's already crippled.