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In other words,
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You ist you Mhm Hello!
Welcome,
welcome us to listeners.
My soul family all around the globe.
At this point,
I'm so honored and grateful to be here with you today.
You are in for such an extraordinary treat.
I cannot wait for you to get to know our guests today.
It's going to be just a very uplifting,
beautiful conversation.
So thank you for spending your time with us,
thrilled to be here with you and let me tell you about who you're about to meet.
Welcome Doctor Mark Nicola.
He is a nutritional therapist and quantum energy Healer who has transformed the lives of more than 60,000 people over the last 35 years through his innovative genius.
He has integrated ancient chinese energy healing techniques with cutting edge nutritional science in what he calls electromagnetic muscle testing,
a one of a kind approach that zeroes in on each individual's unique nutritional needs.
Dr Nicola was awarded the Divine contribution to humanity Award in 2021 his movie was awarded the best health awareness film of 2021.
He has authored seven international bestselling books,
amazing to date.
Uh and Dr McColl has appeared on Dr Oz Better tv W F X T Fox,
25 boston KCBS in Los Angeles along with numerous national tv and radio shows and in regional and national magazines.
Were also welcoming Today.
Cristina Rosello,
person who has been in production,
filmmaking and visual storytelling for 25 years after studying visual arts and earning a B.
F.
A.
From Rutgers University Mason Gross School of the Arts.
She began her career in post production in 2000 and six.
She launched her own production company in new york city 31 Creative.
Her own company's groundbreaking work has won industry recognition,
including pro max B.
D.
A.
Telly and Emmy awards?
Her company's high profile clients includes most major networks and media branches including Nickelodeon,
MTV VH one Food network,
NBC ESPN and scientific american.
So honored,
so honored to have both of you here today.
I absolutely loved the film the way of miracles.
And also we'll just do a little shout out.
I have dr McCullough's book,
the way of miracles with my little bookmark and just honored to have you both here.
I think in this time right now this conversation could be more important to really talk about healing and miracles and ways that we can really tap into our own our own abilities to to be well and to feel our best and be our best.
So,
thank you both.
What a gift.
Thanks for having us beautiful to be here.
Well,
I thank you.
I I thought what might be helpful is um,
maybe just to start,
you know this this film was really powerful.
Um,
and I know,
so we've we have interviewed,
I know that it was,
I believe it premiered at the illuminate film festival,
Christina and Danette,
who is actually a dear friend and has been on the show as well and many of the listeners know about illuminate film festival but may not have seen the film yet.
Maybe just to start with the impetus.
The what what how did you get the idea to do this film?
What was it like filming it.
and what did you learn from that experience?
Because it was very,
very powerful.
Oh,
well,
thank you,
thanks for saying that.
Um so Mark actually reached out,
he was looking to tell his his story and he reached out and I didn't know too much about Mark at the time,
and I just started to look into all of his amazing work,
his years of healing and his commitment to healing,
and I was like,
this is a beautiful story to,
to tell,
but what we also wanted to do was connect it um to the science of today.
We really wanted to weave in where the science is so that we could bring east and west together and,
you know,
is it just a perfect opportunity to do that and share these healing stories,
which,
and I think it's the stories hopefully that change the hearts and minds of people.
Yeah,
beautiful.
Yeah,
I so dr Nicola,
I'm just,
maybe you could share a little bit about your story,
when did you start discovering your abilities to help healing at this level?
You know,
this is one of those,
like,
tell us all about you and your whole life.
I don't,
I know that that's a big open,
wide open question.
You can start wherever you want,
but your,
your gift is so precious and you know,
clearly there's just,
it's just beautiful to watch,
and we'd love to hear,
how did this even evolve?
You can start wherever you want.
You know,
the number of years ago,
I just decided that My brother was actually,
my older brother was actually suffering from heart disease.
He was 35 when he suffered his first heart attack.
I was 22 at the time and I was so stunned.
I was so shocked.
He had open heart surgery and it's just the whole thing blew my mind completely blew my mind.
But the way he was treated his limitations in terms of treatment options and things like that.
The way the physician spoke to him,
the way he was addressed,
the way his situation was unfolded.
It's just absolutely something that's,
it's shocked me.
It stunned me and I just said there needs to be a better way to to deal with this.
I was,
I was so blown away by my brother being sick to begin with.
But in the way that they,
that he was being treated,
this was so unacceptable to me.
So I just thought maybe I should shift my major from business to nutrition.
So I decided to shift my,
my major in college from business to nutrition.
I studied nutrition as best I could at that time,
got a reference library work.
Let's put it that way.
I did my study and I just did the best I could to help my brother and I counseled him the for the first time I ever counseling because my brother in the hospital.
The long story short is my brother got better,
he improved.
He decided to start working out again and eating better and changed his life radically.
But that was the first my first attempt at trying to make a difference to somebody.
And I just decided that that she made such a difference in my brother's life is such an incredible difference that I needed to do that more.
That started the whole program rolling for me.
And then I finished my college work,
my undergraduate work,
my graduate work in nutrition and I decided I was gonna do this for a living.
The very first day that I just showed up at work,
There were like 10 people showed up at my door in the middle of Cohasset Massachusetts who in Cohasset Massachusetts knows anything about holistic medicine.
Nobody,
nobody,
but it was just an incredibly mind blowing experience.
I'm opening the door and people are knocking on door,
knocking the door.
I see where these people coming from right from day one we were crowded with with interest astounding,
really,
really astounding.
So I started working with people right away and started making a difference right away.
But I just unfolded in the process and my expectations were also as I went along.
It starts with compassion and the compassion,
heartfelt compassion leads the way.
So my compassion,
I care about people,
I care a lot about people have a heart and I decided that early on that I listened to what I could through my heart.
And and if something in the world said,
you can't do that,
you can't do that.
The world's expectations are so limited,
they're so conservative.
Medical expectations are so conservative,
so limited,
so scientifically limited.
If you will.
I said,
I can't,
I can't go there.
I got to operate from my internal place.
My internal compass led me through the process so I thought I could help somebody and I'd use my intuition and whatnot,
God damn doubts.
That's what I did.
I used my intuition,
my,
my inner sense,
my heartfelt nature took took charge and I help people right off the bat in ways that you're not supposed to help people.
So I developed the world,
I live in a world,
everything's different in an ideal world,
everything is possible.
And I think Christina help me tell a beautiful story.
Like nobody ever,
nobody else could have.
You know,
she did a beautiful job capturing the beautiful nature of that story that everything is possible in our souls and our hearts where we lead our lives from.
That's where that's where magical miracles take place at deeper levels of self,
so,
so beautiful.
I,
you know,
I'm laughing because I first walked in from boston originally when I was watching this,
I'm like,
he's gotta be from boston,
I could hear a little something in your accent and I'm like,
oh I loved it.
I was like,
I wish I still lived in that area and brought me home and I love your story that,
like,
who would be into nutrition there and then a lot of people and you know that you,
you live in a world where all is possible,
this is what you showed and and Cristina what you did such a beautiful job showing where all of these stories where you know,
we're trained to see some of those situations as health crisis is like,
there's how is she gonna get better?
She's not going to be able to,
or you know,
there's a certain protocol or you were trained to have a certain thought and I just,
you could feel dr McCullough your heart leading the way I literally was watching.
I have to be honest,
I was like,
bawling during half of it.
Um and then I would start to feel embarrassed and I'm like,
why am I embarrassed?
Like,
I'm just,
I'm watching you lead and he'll with your heart and it was really touching,
it was really touching hearts.
Hearts talked to hearts.
Hearts always address other hearts.
Oh,
it's beautiful.
I've never heard that,
that my heart's like,
yeah,
I like that,
it's resonating.
I'm literally as I'm doing this,
I'm like,
you know,
you can feel my body and like,
she likes that heart stuck two hearts,
I love that,
that is beautiful.
How did you?
I'm actually curious if it's okay to talk for a minute.
You brought up intuition,
it's something I'm we talked about a lot here,
and for those listening,
did you do anything to tune into your intuition?
Do you feel like you're especially intuitive Christina?
I'm curious if your intuition cracked open while you were putting this together,
because that's such a cornerstone of what you were saying is so part of this healing.
Do you wanna go first,
Mark,
or do you want me to go first?
Okay.
Um well,
I think that it's part of your intuition is being connected to a deeper part of yourself and,
you know,
just bring it back to healing in the western,
in the Western world,
we are very focused on the material medicine.
And we're not really um dealing with the more the more subtle levels of self and going inward,
and and we have a whole part of this in the film where you're really building a relationship with your inner world and that's and that's done that's done through a daily practice,
and that's really where you can develop your intuition,
but sure,
everyone has that naturally there some more than others,
and the more that you,
well,
first you have to be aware of it and then you have to every day have a practice where you build a deeper relationship until you,
you know,
you know,
self as as your soul self.
And we have that also at the end of the film,
you know,
you're building that relationship and that trust,
and and and then there's a reorientation of self is really what happens?
And that intuition is um you know,
maybe coming from what you would say is your higher self.
Yeah.
People call it different things.
There's a there's a journey that we we can go on from south to Seoul and I think that most of us are on a cellular journey in this culture,
it's a material world is a mechanistic culture,
but there's a whole world that we've left out of the equation,
that's the world of soul,
and it's a world of internal source.
It's a world of imagination,
it's a world of creativity,
it's a world of mind,
it's a world of depth.
It's I mean,
it's a world of consciousness,
it's a world of limitless consciousness,
infinite blessings.
Those are the realities that we can actually open up to and let them lead us,
let them lead our awareness to let them lead our direction into a whole different world and a whole different concept.
But everything is possible in that world of past.
In that world of intuition.
Intuition is a natural byproduct of going going into your soul,
going into a deeper property properties.
Like Christina said,
she's absolutely right about that.
My question is such a great way to say it,
I haven't heard it said like that,
and for those listening who are like,
okay,
how do I deepened my intuition,
How do I,
frankly maybe even use the word,
get that shift your your programming to really getting all as possible because I think was there was there.
Did you always feel that way dr Mykola?
Or did you have a the point where you just started to see shifts and miracles maybe to share kind of how you've created that,
that,
that world?
Because to me,
it's for all of us to have that.
In my fifth book.
My fifth book,
which is the white book,
the cream book in whole health.
I wrote an interesting story about I was 12 years old.
I was in the car with my mother driving up to massachusetts.
We lived in Binghamton,
new york upstate new york,
drove up to the massachusetts to see my brother.
He and his wife just had their first baby.
So I'm 12 years old when I'm driving in the car and looking out the window and everything's going zooming,
buzzing nearby.
And I went into a trance and I saw my whole life unfold.
I saw myself growing up and moving to massachusetts becoming a doctor.
I saw the whole thing,
I truly did.
I truly did.
I told my mother this and mother said,
that's nice,
honey,
that's all she could say is that's nice.
And I said,
mom,
I really,
I mean this,
I really,
I really saw my whole life,
that's great.
So it was kind of interesting that my mother was not not tuned into my vision,
but I was early in early in life,
I was actually open to the fact that I could tune into to life in a timeless manner.
And I've always been a,
and I have a kid and a practitioner in the sense of tuning into my inner cell.
I was I have an inner interconnection with myself and I can go to those places.
Everybody can,
of course,
like,
Christina centuries,
right,
we can all go to those places.
I started a very early age,
tapping into an earlier awareness,
those earlier messages,
those earlier possibilities.
And I I surely have gotten accustomed to in Houston and it leads the way in my work now,
it's it's actually the most important part of my work,
do you find?
Um it's that's so amazing about your story,
but I love that your mom was like,
that's nice,
dear,
that's great,
that's lovely,
We're gonna keep driving.
Um do you at this point?
Well,
I guess one of the questions because I sometimes hear questions that are being asked and I what I'm hearing is how do I do this?
How do I get this inner world connection like that you have and that you were talking Christina,
you have,
what are ways,
what are some ways that we can do that?
What are some maybe calm tools but things that you have done that have helped to build that deeper relationship with yourself and your inner world.
So we touch on it briefly in the film,
like maybe a couple of lines,
we didn't get to focus too much on in this film,
but it's a lot of it's in Mark's book.
Um but one of the ways is meditation really you want to quiet the mind because we're so used to living our lives with chatter,
going on our to do list our concert.
And that that's what you want to take a break from.
So that you can open up a space to allow your deeper sense self sense of self to come through.
Not your subconscious patterning.
That's you know,
constantly constant chatter,
which we touched on a little bit in the film,
which we call it,
you know,
when you're in your beta brainwave state and it's your constant to do list and we do that throughout the day.
And it's really important to have time every day to have quiet time.
And that's really where you start to build that relationship.
I also have a yoga practice that I do,
and you can also do qi gong.
So movement,
breath work,
Kanayama work um meditation,
having time for self care and building that relationship with self.
That's that's what I would say.
Look,
I mentioned an interesting exercise in the book.
I think it's interesting that we would ask readers to do,
go to the nearest mirror,
go to the nearest mirror and just look in that mirror.
Don't just look in the mirror.
Look at the center of your eyes,
looking into the center of your eyes.
I di corda core nucleus to nucleus,
look in your core and,
and just 10 minutes worth of feeling the essence of your being going,
tuning out all the noise like christian said all the chatter,
all the monkey mind and just focus on the eyes,
Look in your eyes and tap into the fact that there's a,
there's a being there,
there's a soul,
there is a business.
There's a matter of,
it's a matter of tapping into the energetic being,
this the energy of your being.
This just feel it,
feel the essence,
that's your soul.
That's who you are.
That just eliminates all the,
all the confusion that eliminates all the distraction.
It eliminates all the,
the,
the gunk and it just clears you right up and straight stranger right out.
It's incredible.
Do that every day,
10 minutes every day.
I um,
these are so,
these are so powerful.
These examples what I love is that their um,
you know,
you don't have to pay for it.
You got a mirror.
Everyone has a mirror somewhere.
I hope some,
I'm sure in the us someone,
everyone has a mirror probably around the globe to,
You know,
I have to say that to that practice.
It's interesting.
I I've been doing that for a long time.
Not every day.
I actually never done 10 minutes and like I'm going to try that.
I'm going to try 10 minutes with myself?
And I have found um there are times.
It's brought like crying and emotion and I mean it's amazing what comes up.
There are other moments.
I'm like,
who is this?
Like,
how did this happen?
Like what's you know,
it's so um I love that practice.
I love that practice.
And there's an interesting part of that process.
Look in that mirror,
like we said,
until you can see yourself,
you see your soul,
but then before you close your eyes,
before you turn away from the mirror,
become what you see,
become what you see.
Don't just see it become what you see.
My heart,
love that.
It's like to do that.
That's beautiful.
That's so beautiful in terms of,
you know,
there's a lot that you go through in this book and in the film.
I just tried to pull out some of the some of the questions or thoughts I have that would be interesting to talk about.
And also leave space if there's anything we don't discuss.
Because there's these stories that you cover in the film are honestly alone just to watch and feel inspired and really feel the essence of what you're saying.
Dr Mykola about all is possible.
This is what you,
you know,
Christina,
you did to this,
that's the world that waits for you?
Yeah.
What are you waiting for?
I mean everybody I say that too.
I mean the world,
What are you waiting for?
That's the world that waits for you.
What are you waiting for?
What do you what do you mean postponing why?
Why are you postponing it?
It's why?
Why do you why don't you trust it?
Experiment.
Take a step every day.
Take a step closer every day,
live with opening up to it.
How might we experiment and take a step closer now?
I'm getting all like,
give give say more about that.
Because I think I'm really I feel like this is going to resonate.
Like how do we what might be a way to to test it?
Or take a step closer to two things.
Two things.
It begins with service secondly,
take a risk.
So,
take a risk in service.
It's gonna have compassion that opens up the heart,
compassion has the is the key to the heart.
So to have the compassion that you care about somebody you want to make a difference in your life.
I don't care if I have a migraine headache,
whatever it is.
Service compassion,
and you and you sacrifice you give yourself and you and you give up your expectations that are limited.
All your programming.
Give it up.
Take a take a risk.
We'll take the risk to believe I have total faith in your being.
Take the risk to have a total total faith in your in your soul and your capability of breaking beyond the margins and the barriers limitations.
Break through the threshold threshold.
But take a risk service and risk.
I love that Excellent service,
really compassion heart and you can hear that coming through.
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna swell.
It's gotta be big.
It's gonna be you have to take a risk to do something you could never imagine yourself doing and do it with a sense of faith,
a sense of belief and trust.
I feel like I'm gonna clip this out just this is what you just put it in my start listening every morning in my ear.
I was like,
I need to I love what you just said.
I heard it is a little like,
you know,
almost like a mantra.
I was like,
we're gonna pull that out.
I think it's a little sound bite for myself and everyone else.
Um I love what you're saying.
I want to ask you,
when you have patients that come in,
you know,
with,
we'll call them quote unquote,
incurable situations,
diseases,
and all kinds of um do you actually,
I'm curious on a couple levels.
Do you actually see them fully healed already?
Do you?
What is that like for you in this world of?
I love what you're saying,
possibility is we're all meant to be well,
right,
and that possibility of anything is possible,
I guess.
How do you how do you how are you being with a patient that may be coming in with something very extreme.
Whatever,
that part of the way I look at the part of them,
it's indestructible with my my indestructibility.
So I take my indestructible soul and I look in the mirror and we're working soul to soul.
You can't work at a level that can't provide the proper energy for what you're trying to do.
You can't you can't be superficial,
can't be material,
can't be mechanistic,
you can't do that.
You have to work with your soul and you have to address their soul to soul.
The soul.
Yeah.
And I've been in in an office with Mark when he's with a patient and he it just exudes this level of deep caring and this unconditional love.
And I imagine it takes a lot for him.
I don't I don't know how he does it to be honest with you because it seems like there's a lot of discipline of grounding when you're seeing patient after patient after patient.
But he just has such a caring,
deep,
caring presence and he just can just he just looks right into your soul.
And I've just seen people open up to this space of love that he's really holding for them.
You know,
that's what I witnessed with him with a compassionate component of that.
There's also a confidence.
It's not it's not it's not an ego confidence.
It's a soulful confidence because these people matter so much.
Every life is so precious,
every moment,
every life is precious.
And for anybody to lose one moment of life to pain and suffering is unreasonable,
that starts the process,
that's,
that starts,
that starts the inspiration.
Hey there,
my sweet friend,
this is julie,
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So my question is how do we do this for ourselves?
Um,
you're,
you know,
I know because people have written into me whether they're struggling with a ailment or you know,
disease or anxiety or fear.
There's a lot of all of that going on or um,
you know,
something going on,
whether it's a diagnosis or whatever that might be.
So let's say if we're not,
you know,
I haven't had the ability yet to go see you being with ourselves like that.
Do you,
how do you,
how do you,
how do you hold your hand?
I have thoughts on it,
but I'm curious what you would say to somebody,
um,
how to hold themselves the way you're seeing them,
because ultimately I would imagine that's,
yeah,
two things.
Two things.
Number one,
Number one,
you want to make sure that you tap into the fact that there's two of you,
there's not,
there's not one self,
there's two selves.
There's a more immortal self at an immortal self.
Your mortal self is a center.
It's,
it's,
it's,
it's constantly an error.
It's a mess.
It's,
it's,
it's always out of order.
You're,
you're,
you're immortal self is always perfect.
It was soul has an ego.
And,
and as long as you're working within the cell cell,
there's limitless possibilities.
In terms of love.
And in terms of self love,
If I,
if I think about loving myself,
I gotta love,
I gotta love myself at the soul level,
not the ego level.
Souls are not not very level.
I mean,
eagles are not very level,
the eagles are just not Lovable at all.
They really aren't,
there's nothing level about an ego,
there's a lot of love about the soul.
Soul has infinite love it just as infinite love.
So to to feel that love your soul is to appreciate yourself and love yourself.
That begins your process of openness of healing.
You begin healing with with true love itself,
That's to love your soul beautiful.
So it sounds like it's really getting I love this,
I haven't heard it said this way.
The ego is kind of the mortal,
the earthly soul versus the,
you know,
the the infinite.
But just the first step to healing is to overcome your identity crisis.
You don't know who you are.
Whoa,
say that again,
that I'm like the first step to healing is overcoming your identity crisis.
You don't know who you are.
I really I always say we identify your eye,
who's your I use ai all day long,
who is I Mhm.
If I is ego,
you know,
there's no love there,
there's no healing there there's only there's only need,
there's only need there,
that's all there is need.
Yeah.
The ego is there,
you know,
to protect you in some ways,
you know?
Were you So you don't want to be throwing so much judgment on it,
you know?
It's it's Yeah,
but to operate from,
you know that as as true self isn't you want to go deeper.
You want to go deeper and you you know know that that is part of your ego,
that is your ego self,
that is in these patterns that you might hate or you know have judgment for their their they were there maybe for years to protect you and you can no,
it's okay,
you can tell yourself it's okay.
I think you begin by loving the soul and then after a while you get good at loving the whole process.
There was a quote in here that I just pulled out,
I don't know the page.
It basically was saying um that what is healing?
The quote was what is healing and basically said asking anybody any kind of healer in the end,
it's love,
I'm I'm paraphrasing it was like in the right here,
nope,
they all the quotes all look the same.
It's somewhere in the beginning of your book,
I was like,
whoa,
my body resonated with that.
And so I guess my question to you is um to define or to really look at like that that love what I'm hearing and I'm definitely resonating is that love once you as you learn to love your whole higher self and then also the whole process,
is it that love that you're seeing dr McCulloch and and cristina from what you witnessed,
that is that is the healing agent,
Is that what we're really dealing with?
It?
Sure is.
I mean,
love is,
love is,
love is a transcendent potion.
You know,
Love,
Love is,
it's pure transcendence.
Love,
Love is love is heaven on earth and this is the thing that I think is interesting,
it's something I've played with is knowing that then I've got to be really,
really mindful.
And I'm thinking for all of us,
am I really being loving to myself with some of the things I'm saying or not saying or frankly.
And then you know when I go to fear,
how can I be loving in that state of fear and how you know,
how am I being loving to others?
And even you know,
it's it's it's so fascinating to me because I would imagine it really does start with the internal How much are you loving in within yourself?
I think the important thing is to become the love.
I don't want to separate myself from the concept of I don't want to go to love.
I don't want to make love happen.
I want to actually become the love.
So by the exercise in the Mirror we talked about the meditation that Christina talks about become the love.
Mm hmm.
I think even mark that you have in the book,
it's you're looking in the mirror and that's part of it.
But he also has a whole meditation where you're you're saying,
you know,
that's that's all in the book as well.
And you know,
it's creating a space this space of love and so many people are bombarding themselves with judgment on themselves and you know yourselves are listening,
Everything is listening.
And so it's important to have you know,
we talk about compassion,
which you start just by having gratitude.
You can you can start wherever you are.
It's not like this big thing,
oh my gosh,
how do I be love?
Just little steps,
little steps and all of a sudden you start to shift and you're like,
oh that's and then you really can experience what that is and until you have the experience,
it's you know,
it might seem like this a huge task,
how do I get there?
And it's little steps little steps each day,
the scientific circle helps us into move into that.
I think the tai chi circles says,
you know what wholeness is about dark and light in the celebration of the wholeness of dark and light.
It's not like we don't feel bad about the dark.
That that's a that's a bad habit.
Somebody programmed us for the objective is to understand the wholeness is the key and the wholeness is the beauty,
mutual compatibility of opposition between the dark and the light.
So,
so there's nothing to feel bad about.
Um I could hear you both speaking out for hours.
I'm like,
just keep keep,
keep sharing this.
Like,
you know,
it's interesting and I think this is something I'm going to encourage everyone listening,
just notice your body because as you're speaking,
this is resonating.
Like we started out when you said hearts love other hearts my my body is just I'm getting this like yes,
like chills.
I mean the whole thing and it's resonating with every,
you know,
to me that feels like this feels like truth right And that it's ironic.
The truth is really letting go of anything you've ever learned or been programs so that we can become.
And I think of it as like beginners empty open because that is that is a different concept to celebrate the dark and the light most.
And I'll be honest,
I I spent a long time where I was like,
do not want to be in the dark at all ever.
Like don't like it.
Don't,
I don't enjoy that.
And just what you just said.
There's nothing,
there's no wrong or right.
There's nothing.
There's no problem with it.
It's exactly separations,
separations of illusion.
Mm hmm.
We're talking about the wholeness.
Thinking the tiki circle is a perfect metaphor.
It's it's the wholeness.
It's a it's a complete it's not a semicircle.
You can't have wholeness with the semicircle.
If you want to dwell on the white,
the white side of the semicircle,
you're living in half a circle.
Half the universe that doesn't work homeless is there's the king right and find your peace and acceptance and trust and homeless is just important.
Are you in terms of um,
I know one of the things you talked about was this PPF self test.
I thought that was fascinating.
The punch pushing the fist.
It's a muscle testing.
Can we can you talk a little bit about um I know you do muscle testing and you showed this in the film um with your patients.
I I've used it in my life a bit.
I I want to learn more and I think I know a lot of people listening,
I've heard this as an interest is like how do I how do I do this?
Um and I was at home,
I was reading I was trying and I'm like,
I'm going to ask him because I think I got it backwards.
So maybe just to share a little bit about waste.
It's it's it's a dialogue that you're keeping your your dialogue in between your mind and your body,
the practitioner between practitioner and the patient,
either one,
but you're trying to establish energetic answers,
energetic dancers.
So when you talk about muscle testing,
you're looking at strength and weakness.
If something as strong and as resistance,
if it's weak,
it doesn't have resistance.
So there's the strength is,
yes,
the music,
the weaknesses doesn't know.
So if I ask you to shape,
we arm goes down,
that's the weakness.
There's there's muscle resistance there.
So when you do the punch testing,
you put your hand in front of your chest like that,
you keep it about an inch inch and a half away from your chest.
And I'm pushing with my right hand.
So can I push and does it actually go into my chest?
Is there is there resistance?
There is the question,
is there resistance if there's not a resistance?
That's a yes no resistance.
It's and it's a negative to know the same thing as muscle testing strengthens yes,
weaknesses and no.
So you're you're basically just checking to see what your resistance is as you're pushing your hand into your chest.
And if you get a strong resistance,
that's a that's a strong response.
Yes.
That's an affirmative answer.
But you can you can actually get into have you dialogue with that and and and and and by the way,
you know,
you're not going to be great at that the first time you do it.
But if you keep working with it,
you'll you'll surprise yourself.
You get better and better and better at all the time.
Just keep working with it.
Yeah.
You know where I've seen this show up actually is with food for myself is I can picture something or see it and I can feel of course the leaning and right,
which makes sense.
I will tell you as somebody I used to struggle.
I talk openly with overeating.
Um I know you had a you had some people in the film,
you know,
struggle over eating and over sugar and all that and today none of that.
I can actually feel um I might think I want the cake but my body is like,
oh hell no you do not.
We do not because it usually is like,
you know,
I wanted my taste buds,
you know water mouth and then my body moves back and that's taken a little while.
But I've noticed that's where I I see it showing up,
it's been very helpful is to learn how to do that.
It's a nonverbal communication.
It's like you said about hearts,
Hearts speak to hearts,
I think there's nonverbal communication takes place all the time.
So you're,
you're speaking to your heart,
you're receiving information,
transmitting and receiving through your heart through your energy field,
your bio field.
You were with these active bio fields,
you produce a lot of response all day long,
all day long about just like you just said,
you don't feel good about the food,
probably leave it alone.
Yeah,
it's beautiful.
I'm just wondering in terms of creating this film,
Christina and showing these miraculous cases dr,
Mykola,
anything else?
I mean,
just to share any,
any surprises or miracles that you experienced,
I always think when you put your intention on a film that says the word miracle,
and like,
I'm assuming there were some miracles maybe or things that showed up for each of you in making this film,
that that you'd like to share about.
Sure.
I mean,
once we named the film,
it took on a life of its own for sure,
and it had an agenda.
It had just the way it wanted to to go.
And as you know,
as I'm creating it and as a creator and being in new york,
I definitely could be a little bit controlling about how it's going to happen,
how I'm going to do things.
And so this film did teach me a valuable lots of valuable lessons but that was one was that I I did have to learn to surrender and go with the flow of how and tap into that even more subtle space of how this wants to go.
And so there were lots of little lessons like that,
lots of synchronicities along the way,
things that you know,
just we didn't have planned and just you know,
lower locations mark that just um all of a sudden a location would not work out and we'd go for a drive and then the perfect location happened and just synchronicities throughout making the film.
And so it was definitely,
I don't know for Mark,
but as I worked on it,
it worked on me,
it was like an alchemical process working on the film.
For sure,
for sure.
I think the thing that strikes me about that question is what I went through with the Lyme disease.
We were making this film and Christy and I are mapping out this beautiful film to work with several patients who suffer from a number of different terrible conditions and while we're thinking about presenting the world with these beautiful miracle stories about healing from diseases in the middle of it actually was bitten by a line tip and I was actually contracted neuro borrelia And I was paralyzed for the better part of two weeks.
I was in terrible shape,
terrible shape.
I was I was in really bad shape.
That line progressed so quickly.
So overnight it was just horrible.
I was on antibiotics as a number of medications,
nothing helped.
And at one point I was in the hospital,
had been in the hospital for quite a while and I decided that I was just gonna actually turn my whole life around in terms of the way I hate.
I always ate pretty well and I always take my supplements and all that.
But I decided I was gonna really work on myself with,
with love with determination.
Just like I was vaccinated patients first time in my life,
I have compassion for myself to that degree to that extent and had to love myself in ways that I never knew how to do before because it was when I learned how to love myself because I had to to survive.
It was very powerful.
But I beat the disease and 100% back to back to life again because of that.
But because it was a horrible experience.
But imagine in the middle of this film,
I'm planning on everybody else's diseases and I had to talk about my own incredible Yeah,
Well,
it's bringing tears to my eyes as I hear you talk about this.
I did notice when you were I think you were shaking or something was happening when you and intuitively it's interesting some like something shifted.
Is he okay?
What's happening?
And I'm it's fascinating.
I'm just thinking about my gosh for someone who's a healer and a service yet.
What I'm also hearing is while you wouldn't probably want to go through it ever again.
The lesson was learning this self love at a different level and I just I'm so grateful you're healed and okay.
I actually had forgotten that was that had happened.
But it sounds like that was a really powerful maybe lesson or learning for you dr McCullough.
Sure it was of course it was on the load.
The other part of that is it helped me understand things about natural medicine that I didn't know before because that's so focused and so intent on learning and growing and evolving.
You know,
it was such an emergency scenario.
Such a powerful episode in my life.
I had to learn things that I never knew before.
And I've applied those things to so many people since that time that it helped hundreds of people with new information,
new newly inspired information.
What are some of those?
Is there any information that you learned firsthand that that would be easy to implement for anyone listening who maybe I mean sure,
simple things like for people of Lyme disease,
there's a company called neutron medics.
I think that one of the most remarkable companies that produce a product that made all the difference in the world for me and for so many since then,
but I never knew about that company.
So I mean,
I I think new traumatic says it was a great discovery for me not to plug somebody,
but they got a great product,
let them have the benefit,
you know I did,
I I studied studied a lot of their product line and this is an amazing products,
amazing products else to find herbs,
things like Petunia Commander,
um,
things that I never used before,
powerful herbs that are just immunologically so supportive,
so powerful,
so enhancing that they make a big,
they're huge difference makers.
I think what I'm also would love to know is you know,
taking this big concept when we say love,
there's the okay,
how do I like,
you know,
how do you,
how do you refuse that?
You we talked about the eyes in the mirror,
Did you,
was there anything else you found yourself doing our way of being that helped you too?
Really just drink it in to to feel that love for yourself.
Anything new that you did that you could share?
Yeah,
for me,
I was I was discovering patterns,
I was paying such such close attention to my,
my thoughts and behaviors was finding old patterns that I was unconsciously out of tune with old patterns about self self sabotage,
negativity and things that I just don't do any more things that I can tap right into them now.
I tracked them down and I I keep watchful eye over them now.
Big difference maker.
I mean,
so much self,
so much subconscious self sabotage,
incredible,
completely.
The same by the same same experiences that you you if is if the smallest step you can start with is just shifting into a witnessing your thoughts and hearing the way that you speak to speak to yourself.
It's eye opening.
And we have a lot in the film.
I mean,
this is a film you could probably watch several times and get new.
It's it has a lot of depth to it.
And every time that I see someone that's watched it more than once,
they're like,
I got all this more information and this more gifts or,
you know,
sprinkled in in,
you know,
layered throughout that film.
And when I was editing it,
the answers were all right there.
And I'm sitting there and I'm as I'm working on it,
I'm thinking,
yes,
and just became the witness and noticing patterns and noticing.
Well,
this isn't very loving.
This isn't very,
you know,
so you can start pretty simply,
you know,
you don't need a lot of fancy stuff is just being aware.
I just think that it's important,
Christina brought up a great point.
I think it's important to,
you know,
consciousness is everything and we don't have consciousness.
We our consciousness.
So I think that the more we tune into the fact that we are consciousness,
the closer we get to tap into a lot of our interactive tendencies with ourselves in our consciousness brings light,
puts the light on on subjects on different scenarios and different behaviors that we otherwise perhaps didn't experience before.
So I think subconscious needs to be over overcome a super conscious.
That's the way I look at it.
So super consciousness is what I talked about as being a way to to change that,
to transform that,
to not only know it,
to be able to disengage it and to be able to start a new process of healing itself.
Love himself and of clarity.
Excellent.
It's so powerful in terms of where people can find this film maybe to share for a minute where we can because I already know,
get converted.
If we don't ask you that,
where can we find you?
Where can we find this?
I mean,
I'm certainly going to watch this again and again.
It is that kind of film,
I must say.
Like I I thought I consumed it in my whole being was aligned with it and I feel like I want to watch it again and again and it's just so inspiring.
You can get a you can get a lot out of it by passing through again if you want to do that.
Um it's it's simple,
it's on the way of miracles dot com,
which actually will direct you into a video streaming.
So it's streaming on vimeo and in january it will be up on Gaia and um yeah,
but those are,
those are the two places where you'll be able to watch the film now.
So when you can rent or buy it on video and the book is on amazon and books,
lots of places,
you know,
beautiful.
So one of the questions I always like to end with,
this is perfect for both of you is I call them heart flares where your heart.
Maybe there was a question I didn't ask or there's just something on your heart that you'd like to share that's coming forth,
that you,
that you feel would be really beneficial inspiring to everyone tuning in.
And so I'll just very open ended ask if either of you have any heart flares or anything that you feel is on your heart,
you would like to add that I haven't asked you or that you'd like to share now.
Well,
what I was hearing a lot of questions from you is you know where to start or how do we get,
how do we get there?
And I guess I would just like to re emphasize,
you know,
start where you are,
be aware of the space and what's right in front of you and simple steps,
small steps,
daily gratitude practice and that could just be just like how well we,
you didn't record this part,
but we started with a little intention on our hearts just by,
even if you notice when you are in discomfort to shift into a place where you're just witnessing that and you just put your hands on your heart and have compassion for yourself and have a gratitude practice of what else you're going for.
That grows,
that grows and will shift.
And then the next thing will come forward that,
you know,
maybe you're gonna start a long daily meditation practice or yoga practice or um you're gonna cut sugar out of your diet.
Hopefully that's what the first thing you do,
but but it's it's a it's becoming aware and then developing a practice and that's your gateway in.
And it will show you the next thing.
You know,
you build a trust there.
It'll show you the next thing,
let's say that in this world that we live in currently,
perhaps there's nothing more important than miracles right now.
And I think that the message of the book,
the message of the film are not just about how to make miracles,
How to get how to get in touch with the fact that you are a miracle.
Everybody that watches the film,
your miracle and maybe reads a book to your miracle,
tap into the reality that you are in your goal.
And miracles aren't so far away when you start to realize that you are comprised of them,
I have zero.
I don't want to say anything else.
That was horrible.
I just um wow,
I am so grateful for both of you.
I'm grateful.
Dr McCullough for your just following your heart and living in a world of infinite possibilities and and really sharing how this for all of us and Christina.
I'm so grateful for your genius and brilliance and taking what dr Nicola does and making this understandable and workable and just the way you've really created this this space for us to see miracles in action.
Um And I think what I'm just feeling at the end,
it's it's like oh yeah,
hello,
maybe that's the mantra every morning.
I am a miracle because that that that vibration that energy that activates that activates that love at a higher level at least that's what I'm feeling.
That's right,
of course.
Beautiful.
Well I just I really want to acknowledge and honor both of you.
This has been I've been so excited about this conversation,
I'm actually gonna go back,
this is dr McCullough's book if you're watching um The Way of miracles which is also the name of the film and definitely gonna watch it again.
Um I actually want my Children to watch it with me and get them involved in that.
Um And I just thank you for sharing so much.
Really beautiful wisdom that I know is going to resonate with everyone listening at a very very deep level and I think you're what you both said is so right,
I can't think of a more important time right now is to remember,
we are the miracle I really,
that just went right here.
So thank you and just grateful that you're here,
my friend.
I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.
I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.
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beautiful conversation.So thank you for spending your time with us, thrilled to be here with you and let me tell you about who you're about to meet.Welcome Doctor Mark Nicola.He is a nutritional therapist and quantum energy Healer who has transformed the lives of more than 60, 000 people over the last 35 years through his innovative genius.

He has integrated ancient chinese energy healing techniques with cutting edge nutritional science in what he calls electromagnetic muscle testing, a one of a kind approach that zeroes in on each individual's unique nutritional needs.Dr Nicola was awarded the Divine contribution to humanity Award in 2021 his movie was awarded the best health awareness film of 2021.

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Cristina Rosello, person who has been in production, filmmaking and visual storytelling for 25 years after studying visual arts and earning a B.F.A.From Rutgers University Mason Gross School of the Arts.She began her career in post production in 2000 and six.

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So honored, so honored to have both of you here today.I absolutely loved the film the way of miracles.And also we'll just do a little shout out.I have dr McCullough's book, the way of miracles with my little bookmark and just honored to have you both here.

I think in this time right now this conversation could be more important to really talk about healing and miracles and ways that we can really tap into our own our own abilities to to be well and to feel our best and be our best.So,

thank you both.What a gift.Thanks for having us beautiful to be here.Well, I thank you.I I thought what might be helpful is um, maybe just to start, you know this this film was really powerful.Um,

and I know, so we've we have interviewed, I know that it was, I believe it premiered at the illuminate film festival, Christina and Danette, who is actually a dear friend and has been on the show as well and many of the listeners know about illuminate film festival but may not have seen the film yet.Maybe just to start with the impetus.

The what what how did you get the idea to do this film? What was it like filming it.and what did you learn from that experience? Because it was very, very powerful.Oh,

well, thank you, thanks for saying that.Um so Mark actually reached out, he was looking to tell his his story and he reached out and I didn't know too much about Mark at the time, and I just started to look into all of his amazing work,

his years of healing and his commitment to healing, and I was like, this is a beautiful story to, to tell, but what we also wanted to do was connect it um to the science of today.We really wanted to weave in where the science is so that we could bring east and west together and,

you know, is it just a perfect opportunity to do that and share these healing stories, which, and I think it's the stories hopefully that change the hearts and minds of people.Yeah,

beautiful.Yeah, I so dr Nicola, I'm just, maybe you could share a little bit about your story, when did you start discovering your abilities to help healing at this level? You know,

this is one of those, like, tell us all about you and your whole life.I don't, I know that that's a big open, wide open question.You can start wherever you want, but your,

your gift is so precious and you know, clearly there's just, it's just beautiful to watch, and we'd love to hear, how did this even evolve? You can start wherever you want.You know,

the number of years ago, I just decided that My brother was actually, my older brother was actually suffering from heart disease.He was 35 when he suffered his first heart attack.I was 22 at the time and I was so stunned.

I was so shocked.He had open heart surgery and it's just the whole thing blew my mind completely blew my mind.But the way he was treated his limitations in terms of treatment options and things like that.The way the physician spoke to him,

the way he was addressed, the way his situation was unfolded.It's just absolutely something that's, it's shocked me.It stunned me and I just said there needs to be a better way to to deal with this.I was,

I was so blown away by my brother being sick to begin with.But in the way that they, that he was being treated, this was so unacceptable to me.So I just thought maybe I should shift my major from business to nutrition.So I decided to shift my,

my major in college from business to nutrition.I studied nutrition as best I could at that time, got a reference library work.Let's put it that way.I did my study and I just did the best I could to help my brother and I counseled him the for the first time I ever counseling because my brother in the hospital.The long story short is my brother got better,

he improved.He decided to start working out again and eating better and changed his life radically.But that was the first my first attempt at trying to make a difference to somebody.And I just decided that that she made such a difference in my brother's life is such an incredible difference that I needed to do that more.

That started the whole program rolling for me.And then I finished my college work, my undergraduate work, my graduate work in nutrition and I decided I was gonna do this for a living.The very first day that I just showed up at work,

There were like 10 people showed up at my door in the middle of Cohasset Massachusetts who in Cohasset Massachusetts knows anything about holistic medicine.Nobody,

nobody, but it was just an incredibly mind blowing experience.I'm opening the door and people are knocking on door, knocking the door.I see where these people coming from right from day one we were crowded with with interest astounding, really,

really astounding.So I started working with people right away and started making a difference right away.But I just unfolded in the process and my expectations were also as I went along.It starts with compassion and the compassion,

heartfelt compassion leads the way.So my compassion, I care about people, I care a lot about people have a heart and I decided that early on that I listened to what I could through my heart.And and if something in the world said,

you can't do that, you can't do that.The world's expectations are so limited, they're so conservative.Medical expectations are so conservative, so limited, so scientifically limited.

If you will.I said, I can't, I can't go there.I got to operate from my internal place.My internal compass led me through the process so I thought I could help somebody and I'd use my intuition and whatnot, God damn doubts.

That's what I did.I used my intuition, my, my inner sense, my heartfelt nature took took charge and I help people right off the bat in ways that you're not supposed to help people.So I developed the world,

I live in a world, everything's different in an ideal world, everything is possible.And I think Christina help me tell a beautiful story.Like nobody ever, nobody else could have.

You know, she did a beautiful job capturing the beautiful nature of that story that everything is possible in our souls and our hearts where we lead our lives from.That's where that's where magical miracles take place at deeper levels of self,

so, so beautiful.I, you know, I'm laughing because I first walked in from boston originally when I was watching this, I'm like, he's gotta be from boston, I could hear a little something in your accent and I'm like,

oh I loved it.I was like, I wish I still lived in that area and brought me home and I love your story that, like, who would be into nutrition there and then a lot of people and you know that you, you live in a world where all is possible,

this is what you showed and and Cristina what you did such a beautiful job showing where all of these stories where you know, we're trained to see some of those situations as health crisis is like, there's how is she gonna get better?

She's not going to be able to, or you know, there's a certain protocol or you were trained to have a certain thought and I just, you could feel dr McCullough your heart leading the way I literally was watching.I have to be honest,

I was like, bawling during half of it.Um and then I would start to feel embarrassed and I'm like, why am I embarrassed? Like, I'm just, I'm watching you lead and he'll with your heart and it was really touching, it was really touching hearts.

Hearts talked to hearts.Hearts always address other hearts.Oh, it's beautiful.I've never heard that, that my heart's like, yeah, I like that, it's resonating.I'm literally as I'm doing this,

I'm like, you know, you can feel my body and like, she likes that heart stuck two hearts, I love that, that is beautiful.How did you? I'm actually curious if it's okay to talk for a minute.You brought up intuition,

it's something I'm we talked about a lot here, and for those listening, did you do anything to tune into your intuition? Do you feel like you're especially intuitive Christina? I'm curious if your intuition cracked open while you were putting this together,

because that's such a cornerstone of what you were saying is so part of this healing.Do you wanna go first, Mark, or do you want me to go first? Okay.Um well, I think that it's part of your intuition is being connected to a deeper part of yourself and,

you know, just bring it back to healing in the western, in the Western world, we are very focused on the material medicine.And we're not really um dealing with the more the more subtle levels of self and going inward, and and we have a whole part of this in the film where you're really building a relationship with your inner world and that's and that's done that's done through a daily practice,

and that's really where you can develop your intuition, but sure, everyone has that naturally there some more than others, and the more that you, well, first you have to be aware of it and then you have to every day have a practice where you build a deeper relationship until you,

you know, you know, self as as your soul self.And we have that also at the end of the film, you know, you're building that relationship and that trust, and and and then there's a reorientation of self is really what happens?

And that intuition is um you know, maybe coming from what you would say is your higher self.Yeah.People call it different things.There's a there's a journey that we we can go on from south to Seoul and I think that most of us are on a cellular journey in this culture, it's a material world is a mechanistic culture,

but there's a whole world that we've left out of the equation, that's the world of soul, and it's a world of internal source.It's a world of imagination, it's a world of creativity,

it's a world of mind, it's a world of depth.It's I mean, it's a world of consciousness, it's a world of limitless consciousness, infinite blessings.Those are the realities that we can actually open up to and let them lead us, let them lead our awareness to let them lead our direction into a whole different world and a whole different concept.

But everything is possible in that world of past.In that world of intuition.Intuition is a natural byproduct of going going into your soul, going into a deeper property properties.Like Christina said,

she's absolutely right about that.My question is such a great way to say it, I haven't heard it said like that, and for those listening who are like, okay, how do I deepened my intuition,

How do I, frankly maybe even use the word, get that shift your your programming to really getting all as possible because I think was there was there.Did you always feel that way dr Mykola? Or did you have a the point where you just started to see shifts and miracles maybe to share kind of how you've created that,

that, that world? Because to me, it's for all of us to have that.In my fifth book.My fifth book, which is the white book, the cream book in whole health.I wrote an interesting story about I was 12 years old.

I was in the car with my mother driving up to massachusetts.We lived in Binghamton, new york upstate new york, drove up to the massachusetts to see my brother.He and his wife just had their first baby.

So I'm 12 years old when I'm driving in the car and looking out the window and everything's going zooming, buzzing nearby.And I went into a trance and I saw my whole life unfold.I saw myself growing up and moving to massachusetts becoming a doctor.

I saw the whole thing, I truly did.I truly did.I told my mother this and mother said, that's nice, honey, that's all she could say is that's nice.And I said, mom,

I really, I mean this, I really, I really saw my whole life, that's great.So it was kind of interesting that my mother was not not tuned into my vision, but I was early in early in life,

I was actually open to the fact that I could tune into to life in a timeless manner.And I've always been a, and I have a kid and a practitioner in the sense of tuning into my inner cell.I was I have an inner interconnection with myself and I can go to those places.

Everybody can, of course, like, Christina centuries, right, we can all go to those places.I started a very early age, tapping into an earlier awareness, those earlier messages,

those earlier possibilities.And I I surely have gotten accustomed to in Houston and it leads the way in my work now, it's it's actually the most important part of my work, do you find?

Um it's that's so amazing about your story, but I love that your mom was like, that's nice, dear, that's great, that's lovely, We're gonna keep driving.Um do you at this point?

Well, I guess one of the questions because I sometimes hear questions that are being asked and I what I'm hearing is how do I do this? How do I get this inner world connection like that you have and that you were talking Christina, you have,

what are ways, what are some ways that we can do that? What are some maybe calm tools but things that you have done that have helped to build that deeper relationship with yourself and your inner world.So we touch on it briefly in the film,

like maybe a couple of lines, we didn't get to focus too much on in this film, but it's a lot of it's in Mark's book.Um but one of the ways is meditation really you want to quiet the mind because we're so used to living our lives with chatter, going on our to do list our concert.

And that that's what you want to take a break from.So that you can open up a space to allow your deeper sense self sense of self to come through.Not your subconscious patterning.That's you know,

constantly constant chatter, which we touched on a little bit in the film, which we call it, you know, when you're in your beta brainwave state and it's your constant to do list and we do that throughout the day.And it's really important to have time every day to have quiet time.

And that's really where you start to build that relationship.I also have a yoga practice that I do, and you can also do qi gong.So movement, breath work, Kanayama work um meditation,

having time for self care and building that relationship with self.That's that's what I would say.Look, I mentioned an interesting exercise in the book.I think it's interesting that we would ask readers to do,

go to the nearest mirror, go to the nearest mirror and just look in that mirror.Don't just look in the mirror.Look at the center of your eyes, looking into the center of your eyes.I di corda core nucleus to nucleus,

look in your core and, and just 10 minutes worth of feeling the essence of your being going, tuning out all the noise like christian said all the chatter, all the monkey mind and just focus on the eyes,

Look in your eyes and tap into the fact that there's a, there's a being there, there's a soul, there is a business.There's a matter of, it's a matter of tapping into the energetic being, this the energy of your being.

This just feel it, feel the essence, that's your soul.That's who you are.That just eliminates all the, all the confusion that eliminates all the distraction.It eliminates all the,

the, the gunk and it just clears you right up and straight stranger right out.It's incredible.Do that every day, 10 minutes every day.I um, these are so, these are so powerful.

These examples what I love is that their um, you know, you don't have to pay for it.You got a mirror.Everyone has a mirror somewhere.I hope some, I'm sure in the us someone, everyone has a mirror probably around the globe to,

You know, I have to say that to that practice.It's interesting.I I've been doing that for a long time.Not every day.I actually never done 10 minutes and like I'm going to try that.I'm going to try 10 minutes with myself?

And I have found um there are times.It's brought like crying and emotion and I mean it's amazing what comes up.There are other moments.I'm like, who is this? Like,

how did this happen? Like what's you know, it's so um I love that practice.I love that practice.And there's an interesting part of that process.Look in that mirror, like we said,

until you can see yourself, you see your soul, but then before you close your eyes, before you turn away from the mirror, become what you see, become what you see.Don't just see it become what you see.

My heart, love that.It's like to do that.That's beautiful.That's so beautiful in terms of, you know, there's a lot that you go through in this book and in the film.I just tried to pull out some of the some of the questions or thoughts I have that would be interesting to talk about.

And also leave space if there's anything we don't discuss.Because there's these stories that you cover in the film are honestly alone just to watch and feel inspired and really feel the essence of what you're saying.Dr Mykola about all is possible.

This is what you, you know, Christina, you did to this, that's the world that waits for you? Yeah.What are you waiting for? I mean everybody I say that too.I mean the world,

What are you waiting for? That's the world that waits for you.What are you waiting for? What do you what do you mean postponing why? Why are you postponing it? It's why?

Why do you why don't you trust it? Experiment.Take a step every day.Take a step closer every day, live with opening up to it.How might we experiment and take a step closer now? I'm getting all like,

give give say more about that.Because I think I'm really I feel like this is going to resonate.Like how do we what might be a way to to test it? Or take a step closer to two things.Two things.

It begins with service secondly, take a risk.So, take a risk in service.It's gonna have compassion that opens up the heart, compassion has the is the key to the heart.So to have the compassion that you care about somebody you want to make a difference in your life.

I don't care if I have a migraine headache, whatever it is.Service compassion, and you and you sacrifice you give yourself and you and you give up your expectations that are limited.All your programming.

Give it up.Take a take a risk.We'll take the risk to believe I have total faith in your being.Take the risk to have a total total faith in your in your soul and your capability of breaking beyond the margins and the barriers limitations.Break through the threshold threshold.

But take a risk service and risk.I love that Excellent service, really compassion heart and you can hear that coming through.It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna swell.It's gotta be big.

It's gonna be you have to take a risk to do something you could never imagine yourself doing and do it with a sense of faith, a sense of belief and trust.I feel like I'm gonna clip this out just this is what you just put it in my start listening every morning in my ear.

I was like, I need to I love what you just said.I heard it is a little like, you know, almost like a mantra.I was like, we're gonna pull that out.I think it's a little sound bite for myself and everyone else.Um I love what you're saying.

I want to ask you, when you have patients that come in, you know, with, we'll call them quote unquote, incurable situations, diseases, and all kinds of um do you actually, I'm curious on a couple levels.

Do you actually see them fully healed already? Do you? What is that like for you in this world of? I love what you're saying, possibility is we're all meant to be well, right,

and that possibility of anything is possible, I guess.How do you how do you how are you being with a patient that may be coming in with something very extreme.Whatever,

that part of the way I look at the part of them, it's indestructible with my my indestructibility.So I take my indestructible soul and I look in the mirror and we're working soul to soul.You can't work at a level that can't provide the proper energy for what you're trying to do.

You can't you can't be superficial, can't be material, can't be mechanistic, you can't do that.You have to work with your soul and you have to address their soul to soul.The soul.

Yeah.And I've been in in an office with Mark when he's with a patient and he it just exudes this level of deep caring and this unconditional love.And I imagine it takes a lot for him.I don't I don't know how he does it to be honest with you because it seems like there's a lot of discipline of grounding when you're seeing patient after patient after patient.

But he just has such a caring, deep, caring presence and he just can just he just looks right into your soul.And I've just seen people open up to this space of love that he's really holding for them.You know,

that's what I witnessed with him with a compassionate component of that.There's also a confidence.It's not it's not it's not an ego confidence.It's a soulful confidence because these people matter so much.Every life is so precious,

every moment, every life is precious.And for anybody to lose one moment of life to pain and suffering is unreasonable, that starts the process, that's, that starts,

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Um, you're, you know, I know because people have written into me whether they're struggling with a ailment or you know, disease or anxiety or fear.There's a lot of all of that going on or um, you know,

something going on, whether it's a diagnosis or whatever that might be.So let's say if we're not, you know, I haven't had the ability yet to go see you being with ourselves like that.Do you,

how do you, how do you, how do you hold your hand? I have thoughts on it, but I'm curious what you would say to somebody, um, how to hold themselves the way you're seeing them, because ultimately I would imagine that's,

yeah, two things.Two things.Number one, Number one, you want to make sure that you tap into the fact that there's two of you, there's not, there's not one self, there's two selves.

There's a more immortal self at an immortal self.Your mortal self is a center.It's, it's, it's, it's constantly an error.It's a mess.It's, it's, it's always out of order.You're,

you're, you're immortal self is always perfect.It was soul has an ego.And, and as long as you're working within the cell cell, there's limitless possibilities.In terms of love.

And in terms of self love, If I, if I think about loving myself, I gotta love, I gotta love myself at the soul level, not the ego level.Souls are not not very level.I mean,

eagles are not very level, the eagles are just not Lovable at all.They really aren't, there's nothing level about an ego, there's a lot of love about the soul.Soul has infinite love it just as infinite love.

So to to feel that love your soul is to appreciate yourself and love yourself.That begins your process of openness of healing.You begin healing with with true love itself, That's to love your soul beautiful.

So it sounds like it's really getting I love this, I haven't heard it said this way.The ego is kind of the mortal, the earthly soul versus the, you know, the the infinite.

But just the first step to healing is to overcome your identity crisis.You don't know who you are.Whoa, say that again, that I'm like the first step to healing is overcoming your identity crisis.You don't know who you are.

I really I always say we identify your eye, who's your I use ai all day long, who is I Mhm.If I is ego, you know, there's no love there, there's no healing there there's only there's only need, there's only need there,

that's all there is need.Yeah.The ego is there, you know, to protect you in some ways, you know? Were you So you don't want to be throwing so much judgment on it, you know?

It's it's Yeah, but to operate from, you know that as as true self isn't you want to go deeper.You want to go deeper and you you know know that that is part of your ego, that is your ego self,

that is in these patterns that you might hate or you know have judgment for their their they were there maybe for years to protect you and you can no, it's okay,

you can tell yourself it's okay.I think you begin by loving the soul and then after a while you get good at loving the whole process.There was a quote in here that I just pulled out, I don't know the page.

It basically was saying um that what is healing? The quote was what is healing and basically said asking anybody any kind of healer in the end, it's love, I'm I'm paraphrasing it was like in the right here,

nope, they all the quotes all look the same.It's somewhere in the beginning of your book, I was like, whoa, my body resonated with that.And so I guess my question to you is um to define or to really look at like that that love what I'm hearing and I'm definitely resonating is that love once you as you learn to love your whole higher self and then also the whole process, is it that love that you're seeing dr McCulloch and and cristina from what you witnessed,

that is that is the healing agent, Is that what we're really dealing with? It? Sure is.I mean, love is, love is, love is a transcendent potion.You know, Love,

Love is, it's pure transcendence.Love, Love is love is heaven on earth and this is the thing that I think is interesting, it's something I've played with is knowing that then I've got to be really, really mindful.

And I'm thinking for all of us, am I really being loving to myself with some of the things I'm saying or not saying or frankly.And then you know when I go to fear, how can I be loving in that state of fear and how you know,

how am I being loving to others? And even you know, it's it's it's so fascinating to me because I would imagine it really does start with the internal How much are you loving in within yourself? I think the important thing is to become the love.

I don't want to separate myself from the concept of I don't want to go to love.I don't want to make love happen.I want to actually become the love.So by the exercise in the Mirror we talked about the meditation that Christina talks about become the love.Mm hmm.

I think even mark that you have in the book, it's you're looking in the mirror and that's part of it.But he also has a whole meditation where you're you're saying, you know,

that's that's all in the book as well.And you know, it's creating a space this space of love and so many people are bombarding themselves with judgment on themselves and you know yourselves are listening, Everything is listening.

And so it's important to have you know, we talk about compassion, which you start just by having gratitude.You can you can start wherever you are.It's not like this big thing, oh my gosh,

how do I be love? Just little steps, little steps and all of a sudden you start to shift and you're like, oh that's and then you really can experience what that is and until you have the experience, it's you know,

it might seem like this a huge task, how do I get there? And it's little steps little steps each day, the scientific circle helps us into move into that.I think the tai chi circles says,

you know what wholeness is about dark and light in the celebration of the wholeness of dark and light.It's not like we don't feel bad about the dark.That that's a that's a bad habit.Somebody programmed us for the objective is to understand the wholeness is the key and the wholeness is the beauty,

mutual compatibility of opposition between the dark and the light.So, so there's nothing to feel bad about.Um I could hear you both speaking out for hours.I'm like,

just keep keep, keep sharing this.Like, you know, it's interesting and I think this is something I'm going to encourage everyone listening, just notice your body because as you're speaking, this is resonating.

Like we started out when you said hearts love other hearts my my body is just I'm getting this like yes, like chills.I mean the whole thing and it's resonating with every, you know,

to me that feels like this feels like truth right And that it's ironic.The truth is really letting go of anything you've ever learned or been programs so that we can become.And I think of it as like beginners empty open because that is that is a different concept to celebrate the dark and the light most.

And I'll be honest, I I spent a long time where I was like, do not want to be in the dark at all ever.Like don't like it.Don't, I don't enjoy that.And just what you just said.There's nothing,

there's no wrong or right.There's nothing.There's no problem with it.It's exactly separations, separations of illusion.Mm hmm.We're talking about the wholeness.Thinking the tiki circle is a perfect metaphor.

It's it's the wholeness.It's a it's a complete it's not a semicircle.You can't have wholeness with the semicircle.If you want to dwell on the white, the white side of the semicircle, you're living in half a circle.

Half the universe that doesn't work homeless is there's the king right and find your peace and acceptance and trust and homeless is just important.Are you in terms of um, I know one of the things you talked about was this PPF self test.

I thought that was fascinating.The punch pushing the fist.It's a muscle testing.Can we can you talk a little bit about um I know you do muscle testing and you showed this in the film um with your patients.I I've used it in my life a bit.

I I want to learn more and I think I know a lot of people listening, I've heard this as an interest is like how do I how do I do this? Um and I was at home, I was reading I was trying and I'm like,

I'm going to ask him because I think I got it backwards.So maybe just to share a little bit about waste.It's it's it's a dialogue that you're keeping your your dialogue in between your mind and your body, the practitioner between practitioner and the patient,

either one, but you're trying to establish energetic answers, energetic dancers.So when you talk about muscle testing, you're looking at strength and weakness.If something as strong and as resistance,

if it's weak, it doesn't have resistance.So there's the strength is, yes, the music, the weaknesses doesn't know.So if I ask you to shape, we arm goes down, that's the weakness.

There's there's muscle resistance there.So when you do the punch testing, you put your hand in front of your chest like that, you keep it about an inch inch and a half away from your chest.And I'm pushing with my right hand.

So can I push and does it actually go into my chest? Is there is there resistance? There is the question, is there resistance if there's not a resistance? That's a yes no resistance.

It's and it's a negative to know the same thing as muscle testing strengthens yes, weaknesses and no.So you're you're basically just checking to see what your resistance is as you're pushing your hand into your chest.And if you get a strong resistance,

that's a that's a strong response.Yes.That's an affirmative answer.But you can you can actually get into have you dialogue with that and and and and and by the way, you know,

you're not going to be great at that the first time you do it.But if you keep working with it, you'll you'll surprise yourself.You get better and better and better at all the time.Just keep working with it.

Yeah.You know where I've seen this show up actually is with food for myself is I can picture something or see it and I can feel of course the leaning and right, which makes sense.

I will tell you as somebody I used to struggle.I talk openly with overeating.Um I know you had a you had some people in the film, you know, struggle over eating and over sugar and all that and today none of that.I can actually feel um I might think I want the cake but my body is like,

oh hell no you do not.We do not because it usually is like, you know, I wanted my taste buds, you know water mouth and then my body moves back and that's taken a little while.But I've noticed that's where I I see it showing up,

it's been very helpful is to learn how to do that.It's a nonverbal communication.It's like you said about hearts, Hearts speak to hearts, I think there's nonverbal communication takes place all the time.So you're,

you're speaking to your heart, you're receiving information, transmitting and receiving through your heart through your energy field, your bio field.You were with these active bio fields, you produce a lot of response all day long,

all day long about just like you just said, you don't feel good about the food, probably leave it alone.Yeah, it's beautiful.I'm just wondering in terms of creating this film, Christina and showing these miraculous cases dr,

Mykola, anything else? I mean, just to share any, any surprises or miracles that you experienced, I always think when you put your intention on a film that says the word miracle, and like,

I'm assuming there were some miracles maybe or things that showed up for each of you in making this film, that that you'd like to share about.Sure.I mean, once we named the film,

it took on a life of its own for sure, and it had an agenda.It had just the way it wanted to to go.And as you know, as I'm creating it and as a creator and being in new york, I definitely could be a little bit controlling about how it's going to happen,

how I'm going to do things.And so this film did teach me a valuable lots of valuable lessons but that was one was that I I did have to learn to surrender and go with the flow of how and tap into that even more subtle space of how this wants to go.And so there were lots of little lessons like that,

lots of synchronicities along the way, things that you know, just we didn't have planned and just you know, lower locations mark that just um all of a sudden a location would not work out and we'd go for a drive and then the perfect location happened and just synchronicities throughout making the film.And so it was definitely,

I don't know for Mark, but as I worked on it, it worked on me, it was like an alchemical process working on the film.For sure, for sure.I think the thing that strikes me about that question is what I went through with the Lyme disease.We were making this film and Christy and I are mapping out this beautiful film to work with several patients who suffer from a number of different terrible conditions and while we're thinking about presenting the world with these beautiful miracle stories about healing from diseases in the middle of it actually was bitten by a line tip and I was actually contracted neuro borrelia And I was paralyzed for the better part of two weeks.

I was in terrible shape, terrible shape.I was I was in really bad shape.That line progressed so quickly.So overnight it was just horrible.I was on antibiotics as a number of medications, nothing helped.

And at one point I was in the hospital, had been in the hospital for quite a while and I decided that I was just gonna actually turn my whole life around in terms of the way I hate.I always ate pretty well and I always take my supplements and all that.

But I decided I was gonna really work on myself with, with love with determination.Just like I was vaccinated patients first time in my life, I have compassion for myself to that degree to that extent and had to love myself in ways that I never knew how to do before because it was when I learned how to love myself because I had to to survive.It was very powerful.

But I beat the disease and 100% back to back to life again because of that.But because it was a horrible experience.But imagine in the middle of this film, I'm planning on everybody else's diseases and I had to talk about my own incredible Yeah,

Well, it's bringing tears to my eyes as I hear you talk about this.I did notice when you were I think you were shaking or something was happening when you and intuitively it's interesting some like something shifted.Is he okay?

What's happening? And I'm it's fascinating.I'm just thinking about my gosh for someone who's a healer and a service yet.What I'm also hearing is while you wouldn't probably want to go through it ever again.The lesson was learning this self love at a different level and I just I'm so grateful you're healed and okay.

I actually had forgotten that was that had happened.But it sounds like that was a really powerful maybe lesson or learning for you dr McCullough.Sure it was of course it was on the load.The other part of that is it helped me understand things about natural medicine that I didn't know before because that's so focused and so intent on learning and growing and evolving.

You know, it was such an emergency scenario.Such a powerful episode in my life.I had to learn things that I never knew before.And I've applied those things to so many people since that time that it helped hundreds of people with new information, new newly inspired information.

What are some of those? Is there any information that you learned firsthand that that would be easy to implement for anyone listening who maybe I mean sure, simple things like for people of Lyme disease,

there's a company called neutron medics.I think that one of the most remarkable companies that produce a product that made all the difference in the world for me and for so many since then, but I never knew about that company.

So I mean, I I think new traumatic says it was a great discovery for me not to plug somebody, but they got a great product, let them have the benefit, you know I did,

I I studied studied a lot of their product line and this is an amazing products, amazing products else to find herbs, things like Petunia Commander, um, things that I never used before,

powerful herbs that are just immunologically so supportive, so powerful, so enhancing that they make a big, they're huge difference makers.I think what I'm also would love to know is you know, taking this big concept when we say love,

there's the okay, how do I like, you know, how do you, how do you refuse that? You we talked about the eyes in the mirror, Did you, was there anything else you found yourself doing our way of being that helped you too? Really just drink it in to to feel that love for yourself.

Anything new that you did that you could share? Yeah, for me, I was I was discovering patterns, I was paying such such close attention to my, my thoughts and behaviors was finding old patterns that I was unconsciously out of tune with old patterns about self self sabotage, negativity and things that I just don't do any more things that I can tap right into them now.

I tracked them down and I I keep watchful eye over them now.Big difference maker.I mean, so much self, so much subconscious self sabotage, incredible, completely.

The same by the same same experiences that you you if is if the smallest step you can start with is just shifting into a witnessing your thoughts and hearing the way that you speak to speak to yourself.It's eye opening.

And we have a lot in the film.I mean, this is a film you could probably watch several times and get new.It's it has a lot of depth to it.And every time that I see someone that's watched it more than once, they're like,

I got all this more information and this more gifts or, you know, sprinkled in in, you know, layered throughout that film.And when I was editing it, the answers were all right there.And I'm sitting there and I'm as I'm working on it,

I'm thinking, yes, and just became the witness and noticing patterns and noticing.Well, this isn't very loving.This isn't very, you know, so you can start pretty simply, you know,

you don't need a lot of fancy stuff is just being aware.I just think that it's important, Christina brought up a great point.I think it's important to, you know,

consciousness is everything and we don't have consciousness.We our consciousness.So I think that the more we tune into the fact that we are consciousness, the closer we get to tap into a lot of our interactive tendencies with ourselves in our consciousness brings light,

puts the light on on subjects on different scenarios and different behaviors that we otherwise perhaps didn't experience before.So I think subconscious needs to be over overcome a super conscious.That's the way I look at it.

So super consciousness is what I talked about as being a way to to change that, to transform that, to not only know it, to be able to disengage it and to be able to start a new process of healing itself.Love himself and of clarity.

Excellent.It's so powerful in terms of where people can find this film maybe to share for a minute where we can because I already know, get converted.If we don't ask you that, where can we find you?

Where can we find this? I mean, I'm certainly going to watch this again and again.It is that kind of film, I must say.Like I I thought I consumed it in my whole being was aligned with it and I feel like I want to watch it again and again and it's just so inspiring.You can get a you can get a lot out of it by passing through again if you want to do that.

Um it's it's simple, it's on the way of miracles dot com, which actually will direct you into a video streaming.So it's streaming on vimeo and in january it will be up on Gaia and um yeah, but those are,

those are the two places where you'll be able to watch the film now.So when you can rent or buy it on video and the book is on amazon and books, lots of places, you know,

beautiful.So one of the questions I always like to end with, this is perfect for both of you is I call them heart flares where your heart.Maybe there was a question I didn't ask or there's just something on your heart that you'd like to share that's coming forth, that you,

that you feel would be really beneficial inspiring to everyone tuning in.And so I'll just very open ended ask if either of you have any heart flares or anything that you feel is on your heart, you would like to add that I haven't asked you or that you'd like to share now.

Well, what I was hearing a lot of questions from you is you know where to start or how do we get, how do we get there? And I guess I would just like to re emphasize, you know,

start where you are, be aware of the space and what's right in front of you and simple steps, small steps, daily gratitude practice and that could just be just like how well we, you didn't record this part,

but we started with a little intention on our hearts just by, even if you notice when you are in discomfort to shift into a place where you're just witnessing that and you just put your hands on your heart and have compassion for yourself and have a gratitude practice of what else you're going for.That grows,

that grows and will shift.And then the next thing will come forward that, you know, maybe you're gonna start a long daily meditation practice or yoga practice or um you're gonna cut sugar out of your diet.Hopefully that's what the first thing you do,

but but it's it's a it's becoming aware and then developing a practice and that's your gateway in.And it will show you the next thing.You know, you build a trust there.It'll show you the next thing,

let's say that in this world that we live in currently, perhaps there's nothing more important than miracles right now.And I think that the message of the book, the message of the film are not just about how to make miracles,

How to get how to get in touch with the fact that you are a miracle.Everybody that watches the film, your miracle and maybe reads a book to your miracle, tap into the reality that you are in your goal.

And miracles aren't so far away when you start to realize that you are comprised of them, I have zero.I don't want to say anything else.That was horrible.I just um wow,

I am so grateful for both of you.I'm grateful.Dr McCullough for your just following your heart and living in a world of infinite possibilities and and really sharing how this for all of us and Christina.I'm so grateful for your genius and brilliance and taking what dr Nicola does and making this understandable and workable and just the way you've really created this this space for us to see miracles in action.

Um And I think what I'm just feeling at the end, it's it's like oh yeah, hello, maybe that's the mantra every morning.I am a miracle because that that that vibration that energy that activates that activates that love at a higher level at least that's what I'm feeling.That's right,

of course.Beautiful.Well I just I really want to acknowledge and honor both of you.This has been I've been so excited about this conversation, I'm actually gonna go back, this is dr McCullough's book if you're watching um The Way of miracles which is also the name of the film and definitely gonna watch it again.

Um I actually want my Children to watch it with me and get them involved in that.Um And I just thank you for sharing so much.Really beautiful wisdom that I know is going to resonate with everyone listening at a very very deep level and I think you're what you both said is so right, I can't think of a more important time right now is to remember,

we are the miracle I really, that just went right here.So thank you and just grateful that you're here, my friend.I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.

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So honored,
so honored to have both of you here today.
I absolutely loved the film the way of miracles.
And also we'll just do a little shout out.
I have dr McCullough's book,
the way of miracles with my little bookmark and just honored to have you both here.
I think in this time right now this conversation could be more important to really talk about healing and miracles and ways that we can really tap into our own our own abilities to to be well and to feel our best and be our best.
So,
thank you both.
What a gift.
Thanks for having us beautiful to be here.
Well,
I thank you.
I I thought what might be helpful is um,
maybe just to start,
you know this this film was really powerful.
Um,
and I know,
so we've we have interviewed,
I know that it was,
I believe it premiered at the illuminate film festival,
Christina and Danette,
who is actually a dear friend and has been on the show as well and many of the listeners know about illuminate film festival but may not have seen the film yet.
Maybe just to start with the impetus.
The what what how did you get the idea to do this film?
What was it like filming it.
and what did you learn from that experience?
Because it was very,
very powerful.
Oh,
well,
thank you,
thanks for saying that.
Um so Mark actually reached out,
he was looking to tell his his story and he reached out and I didn't know too much about Mark at the time,
and I just started to look into all of his amazing work,
his years of healing and his commitment to healing,
and I was like,
this is a beautiful story to,
to tell,
but what we also wanted to do was connect it um to the science of today.
We really wanted to weave in where the science is so that we could bring east and west together and,
you know,
is it just a perfect opportunity to do that and share these healing stories,
which,
and I think it's the stories hopefully that change the hearts and minds of people.
Yeah,
beautiful.
Yeah,
I so dr Nicola,
I'm just,
maybe you could share a little bit about your story,
when did you start discovering your abilities to help healing at this level?
You know,
this is one of those,
like,
tell us all about you and your whole life.
I don't,
I know that that's a big open,
wide open question.
You can start wherever you want,
but your,
your gift is so precious and you know,
clearly there's just,
it's just beautiful to watch,
and we'd love to hear,
how did this even evolve?
You can start wherever you want.
You know,
the number of years ago,
I just decided that My brother was actually,
my older brother was actually suffering from heart disease.
He was 35 when he suffered his first heart attack.
I was 22 at the time and I was so stunned.
I was so shocked.
He had open heart surgery and it's just the whole thing blew my mind completely blew my mind.
But the way he was treated his limitations in terms of treatment options and things like that.
The way the physician spoke to him,
the way he was addressed,
the way his situation was unfolded.
It's just absolutely something that's,
it's shocked me.
It stunned me and I just said there needs to be a better way to to deal with this.
I was,
I was so blown away by my brother being sick to begin with.
But in the way that they,
that he was being treated,
this was so unacceptable to me.
So I just thought maybe I should shift my major from business to nutrition.
So I decided to shift my,
my major in college from business to nutrition.
I studied nutrition as best I could at that time,
got a reference library work.
Let's put it that way.
I did my study and I just did the best I could to help my brother and I counseled him the for the first time I ever counseling because my brother in the hospital.
The long story short is my brother got better,
he improved.
He decided to start working out again and eating better and changed his life radically.
But that was the first my first attempt at trying to make a difference to somebody.
And I just decided that that she made such a difference in my brother's life is such an incredible difference that I needed to do that more.
That started the whole program rolling for me.
And then I finished my college work,
my undergraduate work,
my graduate work in nutrition and I decided I was gonna do this for a living.
The very first day that I just showed up at work,
There were like 10 people showed up at my door in the middle of Cohasset Massachusetts who in Cohasset Massachusetts knows anything about holistic medicine.
Nobody,
nobody,
but it was just an incredibly mind blowing experience.
I'm opening the door and people are knocking on door,
knocking the door.
I see where these people coming from right from day one we were crowded with with interest astounding,
really,
really astounding.
So I started working with people right away and started making a difference right away.
But I just unfolded in the process and my expectations were also as I went along.
It starts with compassion and the compassion,
heartfelt compassion leads the way.
So my compassion,
I care about people,
I care a lot about people have a heart and I decided that early on that I listened to what I could through my heart.
And and if something in the world said,
you can't do that,
you can't do that.
The world's expectations are so limited,
they're so conservative.
Medical expectations are so conservative,
so limited,
so scientifically limited.
If you will.
I said,
I can't,
I can't go there.
I got to operate from my internal place.
My internal compass led me through the process so I thought I could help somebody and I'd use my intuition and whatnot,
God damn doubts.
That's what I did.
I used my intuition,
my,
my inner sense,
my heartfelt nature took took charge and I help people right off the bat in ways that you're not supposed to help people.
So I developed the world,
I live in a world,
everything's different in an ideal world,
everything is possible.
And I think Christina help me tell a beautiful story.
Like nobody ever,
nobody else could have.
You know,
she did a beautiful job capturing the beautiful nature of that story that everything is possible in our souls and our hearts where we lead our lives from.
That's where that's where magical miracles take place at deeper levels of self,
so,
so beautiful.
I,
you know,
I'm laughing because I first walked in from boston originally when I was watching this,
I'm like,
he's gotta be from boston,
I could hear a little something in your accent and I'm like,
oh I loved it.
I was like,
I wish I still lived in that area and brought me home and I love your story that,
like,
who would be into nutrition there and then a lot of people and you know that you,
you live in a world where all is possible,
this is what you showed and and Cristina what you did such a beautiful job showing where all of these stories where you know,
we're trained to see some of those situations as health crisis is like,
there's how is she gonna get better?
She's not going to be able to,
or you know,
there's a certain protocol or you were trained to have a certain thought and I just,
you could feel dr McCullough your heart leading the way I literally was watching.
I have to be honest,
I was like,
bawling during half of it.
Um and then I would start to feel embarrassed and I'm like,
why am I embarrassed?
Like,
I'm just,
I'm watching you lead and he'll with your heart and it was really touching,
it was really touching hearts.
Hearts talked to hearts.
Hearts always address other hearts.
Oh,
it's beautiful.
I've never heard that,
that my heart's like,
yeah,
I like that,
it's resonating.
I'm literally as I'm doing this,
I'm like,
you know,
you can feel my body and like,
she likes that heart stuck two hearts,
I love that,
that is beautiful.
How did you?
I'm actually curious if it's okay to talk for a minute.
You brought up intuition,
it's something I'm we talked about a lot here,
and for those listening,
did you do anything to tune into your intuition?
Do you feel like you're especially intuitive Christina?
I'm curious if your intuition cracked open while you were putting this together,
because that's such a cornerstone of what you were saying is so part of this healing.
Do you wanna go first,
Mark,
or do you want me to go first?
Okay.
Um well,
I think that it's part of your intuition is being connected to a deeper part of yourself and,
you know,
just bring it back to healing in the western,
in the Western world,
we are very focused on the material medicine.
And we're not really um dealing with the more the more subtle levels of self and going inward,
and and we have a whole part of this in the film where you're really building a relationship with your inner world and that's and that's done that's done through a daily practice,
and that's really where you can develop your intuition,
but sure,
everyone has that naturally there some more than others,
and the more that you,
well,
first you have to be aware of it and then you have to every day have a practice where you build a deeper relationship until you,
you know,
you know,
self as as your soul self.
And we have that also at the end of the film,
you know,
you're building that relationship and that trust,
and and and then there's a reorientation of self is really what happens?
And that intuition is um you know,
maybe coming from what you would say is your higher self.
Yeah.
People call it different things.
There's a there's a journey that we we can go on from south to Seoul and I think that most of us are on a cellular journey in this culture,
it's a material world is a mechanistic culture,
but there's a whole world that we've left out of the equation,
that's the world of soul,
and it's a world of internal source.
It's a world of imagination,
it's a world of creativity,
it's a world of mind,
it's a world of depth.
It's I mean,
it's a world of consciousness,
it's a world of limitless consciousness,
infinite blessings.
Those are the realities that we can actually open up to and let them lead us,
let them lead our awareness to let them lead our direction into a whole different world and a whole different concept.
But everything is possible in that world of past.
In that world of intuition.
Intuition is a natural byproduct of going going into your soul,
going into a deeper property properties.
Like Christina said,
she's absolutely right about that.
My question is such a great way to say it,
I haven't heard it said like that,
and for those listening who are like,
okay,
how do I deepened my intuition,
How do I,
frankly maybe even use the word,
get that shift your your programming to really getting all as possible because I think was there was there.
Did you always feel that way dr Mykola?
Or did you have a the point where you just started to see shifts and miracles maybe to share kind of how you've created that,
that,
that world?
Because to me,
it's for all of us to have that.
In my fifth book.
My fifth book,
which is the white book,
the cream book in whole health.
I wrote an interesting story about I was 12 years old.
I was in the car with my mother driving up to massachusetts.
We lived in Binghamton,
new york upstate new york,
drove up to the massachusetts to see my brother.
He and his wife just had their first baby.
So I'm 12 years old when I'm driving in the car and looking out the window and everything's going zooming,
buzzing nearby.
And I went into a trance and I saw my whole life unfold.
I saw myself growing up and moving to massachusetts becoming a doctor.
I saw the whole thing,
I truly did.
I truly did.
I told my mother this and mother said,
that's nice,
honey,
that's all she could say is that's nice.
And I said,
mom,
I really,
I mean this,
I really,
I really saw my whole life,
that's great.
So it was kind of interesting that my mother was not not tuned into my vision,
but I was early in early in life,
I was actually open to the fact that I could tune into to life in a timeless manner.
And I've always been a,
and I have a kid and a practitioner in the sense of tuning into my inner cell.
I was I have an inner interconnection with myself and I can go to those places.
Everybody can,
of course,
like,
Christina centuries,
right,
we can all go to those places.
I started a very early age,
tapping into an earlier awareness,
those earlier messages,
those earlier possibilities.
And I I surely have gotten accustomed to in Houston and it leads the way in my work now,
it's it's actually the most important part of my work,
do you find?
Um it's that's so amazing about your story,
but I love that your mom was like,
that's nice,
dear,
that's great,
that's lovely,
We're gonna keep driving.
Um do you at this point?
Well,
I guess one of the questions because I sometimes hear questions that are being asked and I what I'm hearing is how do I do this?
How do I get this inner world connection like that you have and that you were talking Christina,
you have,
what are ways,
what are some ways that we can do that?
What are some maybe calm tools but things that you have done that have helped to build that deeper relationship with yourself and your inner world.
So we touch on it briefly in the film,
like maybe a couple of lines,
we didn't get to focus too much on in this film,
but it's a lot of it's in Mark's book.
Um but one of the ways is meditation really you want to quiet the mind because we're so used to living our lives with chatter,
going on our to do list our concert.
And that that's what you want to take a break from.
So that you can open up a space to allow your deeper sense self sense of self to come through.
Not your subconscious patterning.
That's you know,
constantly constant chatter,
which we touched on a little bit in the film,
which we call it,
you know,
when you're in your beta brainwave state and it's your constant to do list and we do that throughout the day.
And it's really important to have time every day to have quiet time.
And that's really where you start to build that relationship.
I also have a yoga practice that I do,
and you can also do qi gong.
So movement,
breath work,
Kanayama work um meditation,
having time for self care and building that relationship with self.
That's that's what I would say.
Look,
I mentioned an interesting exercise in the book.
I think it's interesting that we would ask readers to do,
go to the nearest mirror,
go to the nearest mirror and just look in that mirror.
Don't just look in the mirror.
Look at the center of your eyes,
looking into the center of your eyes.
I di corda core nucleus to nucleus,
look in your core and,
and just 10 minutes worth of feeling the essence of your being going,
tuning out all the noise like christian said all the chatter,
all the monkey mind and just focus on the eyes,
Look in your eyes and tap into the fact that there's a,
there's a being there,
there's a soul,
there is a business.
There's a matter of,
it's a matter of tapping into the energetic being,
this the energy of your being.
This just feel it,
feel the essence,
that's your soul.
That's who you are.
That just eliminates all the,
all the confusion that eliminates all the distraction.
It eliminates all the,
the,
the gunk and it just clears you right up and straight stranger right out.
It's incredible.
Do that every day,
10 minutes every day.
I um,
these are so,
these are so powerful.
These examples what I love is that their um,
you know,
you don't have to pay for it.
You got a mirror.
Everyone has a mirror somewhere.
I hope some,
I'm sure in the us someone,
everyone has a mirror probably around the globe to,
You know,
I have to say that to that practice.
It's interesting.
I I've been doing that for a long time.
Not every day.
I actually never done 10 minutes and like I'm going to try that.
I'm going to try 10 minutes with myself?
And I have found um there are times.
It's brought like crying and emotion and I mean it's amazing what comes up.
There are other moments.
I'm like,
who is this?
Like,
how did this happen?
Like what's you know,
it's so um I love that practice.
I love that practice.
And there's an interesting part of that process.
Look in that mirror,
like we said,
until you can see yourself,
you see your soul,
but then before you close your eyes,
before you turn away from the mirror,
become what you see,
become what you see.
Don't just see it become what you see.
My heart,
love that.
It's like to do that.
That's beautiful.
That's so beautiful in terms of,
you know,
there's a lot that you go through in this book and in the film.
I just tried to pull out some of the some of the questions or thoughts I have that would be interesting to talk about.
And also leave space if there's anything we don't discuss.
Because there's these stories that you cover in the film are honestly alone just to watch and feel inspired and really feel the essence of what you're saying.
Dr Mykola about all is possible.
This is what you,
you know,
Christina,
you did to this,
that's the world that waits for you?
Yeah.
What are you waiting for?
I mean everybody I say that too.
I mean the world,
What are you waiting for?
That's the world that waits for you.
What are you waiting for?
What do you what do you mean postponing why?
Why are you postponing it?
It's why?
Why do you why don't you trust it?
Experiment.
Take a step every day.
Take a step closer every day,
live with opening up to it.
How might we experiment and take a step closer now?
I'm getting all like,
give give say more about that.
Because I think I'm really I feel like this is going to resonate.
Like how do we what might be a way to to test it?
Or take a step closer to two things.
Two things.
It begins with service secondly,
take a risk.
So,
take a risk in service.
It's gonna have compassion that opens up the heart,
compassion has the is the key to the heart.
So to have the compassion that you care about somebody you want to make a difference in your life.
I don't care if I have a migraine headache,
whatever it is.
Service compassion,
and you and you sacrifice you give yourself and you and you give up your expectations that are limited.
All your programming.
Give it up.
Take a take a risk.
We'll take the risk to believe I have total faith in your being.
Take the risk to have a total total faith in your in your soul and your capability of breaking beyond the margins and the barriers limitations.
Break through the threshold threshold.
But take a risk service and risk.
I love that Excellent service,
really compassion heart and you can hear that coming through.
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna swell.
It's gotta be big.
It's gonna be you have to take a risk to do something you could never imagine yourself doing and do it with a sense of faith,
a sense of belief and trust.
I feel like I'm gonna clip this out just this is what you just put it in my start listening every morning in my ear.
I was like,
I need to I love what you just said.
I heard it is a little like,
you know,
almost like a mantra.
I was like,
we're gonna pull that out.
I think it's a little sound bite for myself and everyone else.
Um I love what you're saying.
I want to ask you,
when you have patients that come in,
you know,
with,
we'll call them quote unquote,
incurable situations,
diseases,
and all kinds of um do you actually,
I'm curious on a couple levels.
Do you actually see them fully healed already?
Do you?
What is that like for you in this world of?
I love what you're saying,
possibility is we're all meant to be well,
right,
and that possibility of anything is possible,
I guess.
How do you how do you how are you being with a patient that may be coming in with something very extreme.
Whatever,
that part of the way I look at the part of them,
it's indestructible with my my indestructibility.
So I take my indestructible soul and I look in the mirror and we're working soul to soul.
You can't work at a level that can't provide the proper energy for what you're trying to do.
You can't you can't be superficial,
can't be material,
can't be mechanistic,
you can't do that.
You have to work with your soul and you have to address their soul to soul.
The soul.
Yeah.
And I've been in in an office with Mark when he's with a patient and he it just exudes this level of deep caring and this unconditional love.
And I imagine it takes a lot for him.
I don't I don't know how he does it to be honest with you because it seems like there's a lot of discipline of grounding when you're seeing patient after patient after patient.
But he just has such a caring,
deep,
caring presence and he just can just he just looks right into your soul.
And I've just seen people open up to this space of love that he's really holding for them.
You know,
that's what I witnessed with him with a compassionate component of that.
There's also a confidence.
It's not it's not it's not an ego confidence.
It's a soulful confidence because these people matter so much.
Every life is so precious,
every moment,
every life is precious.
And for anybody to lose one moment of life to pain and suffering is unreasonable,
that starts the process,
that's,
that starts,
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So my question is how do we do this for ourselves?
Um,
you're,
you know,
I know because people have written into me whether they're struggling with a ailment or you know,
disease or anxiety or fear.
There's a lot of all of that going on or um,
you know,
something going on,
whether it's a diagnosis or whatever that might be.
So let's say if we're not,
you know,
I haven't had the ability yet to go see you being with ourselves like that.
Do you,
how do you,
how do you,
how do you hold your hand?
I have thoughts on it,
but I'm curious what you would say to somebody,
um,
how to hold themselves the way you're seeing them,
because ultimately I would imagine that's,
yeah,
two things.
Two things.
Number one,
Number one,
you want to make sure that you tap into the fact that there's two of you,
there's not,
there's not one self,
there's two selves.
There's a more immortal self at an immortal self.
Your mortal self is a center.
It's,
it's,
it's,
it's constantly an error.
It's a mess.
It's,
it's,
it's always out of order.
You're,
you're,
you're immortal self is always perfect.
It was soul has an ego.
And,
and as long as you're working within the cell cell,
there's limitless possibilities.
In terms of love.
And in terms of self love,
If I,
if I think about loving myself,
I gotta love,
I gotta love myself at the soul level,
not the ego level.
Souls are not not very level.
I mean,
eagles are not very level,
the eagles are just not Lovable at all.
They really aren't,
there's nothing level about an ego,
there's a lot of love about the soul.
Soul has infinite love it just as infinite love.
So to to feel that love your soul is to appreciate yourself and love yourself.
That begins your process of openness of healing.
You begin healing with with true love itself,
That's to love your soul beautiful.
So it sounds like it's really getting I love this,
I haven't heard it said this way.
The ego is kind of the mortal,
the earthly soul versus the,
you know,
the the infinite.
But just the first step to healing is to overcome your identity crisis.
You don't know who you are.
Whoa,
say that again,
that I'm like the first step to healing is overcoming your identity crisis.
You don't know who you are.
I really I always say we identify your eye,
who's your I use ai all day long,
who is I Mhm.
If I is ego,
you know,
there's no love there,
there's no healing there there's only there's only need,
there's only need there,
that's all there is need.
Yeah.
The ego is there,
you know,
to protect you in some ways,
you know?
Were you So you don't want to be throwing so much judgment on it,
you know?
It's it's Yeah,
but to operate from,
you know that as as true self isn't you want to go deeper.
You want to go deeper and you you know know that that is part of your ego,
that is your ego self,
that is in these patterns that you might hate or you know have judgment for their their they were there maybe for years to protect you and you can no,
it's okay,
you can tell yourself it's okay.
I think you begin by loving the soul and then after a while you get good at loving the whole process.
There was a quote in here that I just pulled out,
I don't know the page.
It basically was saying um that what is healing?
The quote was what is healing and basically said asking anybody any kind of healer in the end,
it's love,
I'm I'm paraphrasing it was like in the right here,
nope,
they all the quotes all look the same.
It's somewhere in the beginning of your book,
I was like,
whoa,
my body resonated with that.
And so I guess my question to you is um to define or to really look at like that that love what I'm hearing and I'm definitely resonating is that love once you as you learn to love your whole higher self and then also the whole process,
is it that love that you're seeing dr McCulloch and and cristina from what you witnessed,
that is that is the healing agent,
Is that what we're really dealing with?
It?
Sure is.
I mean,
love is,
love is,
love is a transcendent potion.
You know,
Love,
Love is,
it's pure transcendence.
Love,
Love is love is heaven on earth and this is the thing that I think is interesting,
it's something I've played with is knowing that then I've got to be really,
really mindful.
And I'm thinking for all of us,
am I really being loving to myself with some of the things I'm saying or not saying or frankly.
And then you know when I go to fear,
how can I be loving in that state of fear and how you know,
how am I being loving to others?
And even you know,
it's it's it's so fascinating to me because I would imagine it really does start with the internal How much are you loving in within yourself?
I think the important thing is to become the love.
I don't want to separate myself from the concept of I don't want to go to love.
I don't want to make love happen.
I want to actually become the love.
So by the exercise in the Mirror we talked about the meditation that Christina talks about become the love.
Mm hmm.
I think even mark that you have in the book,
it's you're looking in the mirror and that's part of it.
But he also has a whole meditation where you're you're saying,
you know,
that's that's all in the book as well.
And you know,
it's creating a space this space of love and so many people are bombarding themselves with judgment on themselves and you know yourselves are listening,
Everything is listening.
And so it's important to have you know,
we talk about compassion,
which you start just by having gratitude.
You can you can start wherever you are.
It's not like this big thing,
oh my gosh,
how do I be love?
Just little steps,
little steps and all of a sudden you start to shift and you're like,
oh that's and then you really can experience what that is and until you have the experience,
it's you know,
it might seem like this a huge task,
how do I get there?
And it's little steps little steps each day,
the scientific circle helps us into move into that.
I think the tai chi circles says,
you know what wholeness is about dark and light in the celebration of the wholeness of dark and light.
It's not like we don't feel bad about the dark.
That that's a that's a bad habit.
Somebody programmed us for the objective is to understand the wholeness is the key and the wholeness is the beauty,
mutual compatibility of opposition between the dark and the light.
So,
so there's nothing to feel bad about.
Um I could hear you both speaking out for hours.
I'm like,
just keep keep,
keep sharing this.
Like,
you know,
it's interesting and I think this is something I'm going to encourage everyone listening,
just notice your body because as you're speaking,
this is resonating.
Like we started out when you said hearts love other hearts my my body is just I'm getting this like yes,
like chills.
I mean the whole thing and it's resonating with every,
you know,
to me that feels like this feels like truth right And that it's ironic.
The truth is really letting go of anything you've ever learned or been programs so that we can become.
And I think of it as like beginners empty open because that is that is a different concept to celebrate the dark and the light most.
And I'll be honest,
I I spent a long time where I was like,
do not want to be in the dark at all ever.
Like don't like it.
Don't,
I don't enjoy that.
And just what you just said.
There's nothing,
there's no wrong or right.
There's nothing.
There's no problem with it.
It's exactly separations,
separations of illusion.
Mm hmm.
We're talking about the wholeness.
Thinking the tiki circle is a perfect metaphor.
It's it's the wholeness.
It's a it's a complete it's not a semicircle.
You can't have wholeness with the semicircle.
If you want to dwell on the white,
the white side of the semicircle,